NO 1st Q TD since .....week 5

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  1. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I have to imagine that was more for being the QB of a team that had gone 1-15 and was now making the playoffs. I don't need to go look at the numbers to know that he didn't put up all world stats that year.
     
  2. kevin609

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    I keep hearing about from non-Jets fans that the calls being made are to protect our young quarterback...bullshit. I've seen and we've all seen the throws he's made during clutch situations when he HAS to get the ball down field. Our quarterback can do it. Fuck Schotty.
     
  3. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Didn't we learn anything from the other night? ben had awful #s but he played great, #s can be deceiving. Chad helped an awful franchise win 11 games and a div title a year after needing overtime to win their only game of the season. he deserved the MVP that year despite not having eye popping #s.
     
  4. ThunderbirdJet

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    It isn't all on Schotty. You think Schotty and the offense LIKE to defer every f'n game? Ryan needs to get off that potty. It didn't work this year. I'll say it again... because it's been going on since Herm was here... the OC's do what the HC tells them to do. The same thing happened with Sutton under Mangini as the DC. Mangini was the DC. Sutton had very little say in things.

    If Ryan gets off this deferring crap, then I will put more blame on BS. Until then, I think he is pretty much Rex's errand boy in terms of play calling.

    Bottom line, we as fans have no clue who to blame, we're all just guessing. Remember when Herm threw a punch at that RB's coach, Johnny Ray was it? For inserting Jordan for Martin? All of our HC's have run our primary RB's into the ground under 3 different coaching staffs. LT was DONE by week 10. Ran him too much for a guy his age. Who was behind that? Rayn or Schotty? We don't know.
     
  5. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Winning games is great and I obviously prefer it over stats with our QB. The MVP is usually on a winning team and has huge stats. Chad didn't fit the criteria.
     
  6. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    We won 11 games, scored more than last year and were again w/in one win of the Super Bowl. Of course deferring worked. I love deferring but there are times, like the other night, when a team can hold onto the ball for most of the qtr and not give our O much chance to score in the 1st qtr but I stil prefer to get the ball to start the 2nd half.


    How was LT overworked? he averaged 14 carries per game through 10 games. That is not being overworked, he averaged 13 his last 5 games and he looked fresh for the postseason. He didn't struggle the other night b/c he was overworked- of that was the case why did he look so good at Indy and at NE? That Pitt D can make any RB look old.
     
  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Peyton didn't have his usual eye popping #s that year, there wasn't a great stat year for QBs which was why I thought Chad should get considering the lack of talent he had to work with and how bad Miami was before he got there.
     
  8. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    How didn't it work? We won 11 regular season games and made it to the AFCCG.
     
  9. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    Okie dokie.
     
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    I agree with both points, but the bolded point, perhaps i have missed it, is one the Schotty haters have never even attempted to address. I can even say going so far as that Ryan just doesn't know about all those other available OC's who would do a clearly better job than Schotty, but they don't go there, either. WTF? RYan is in charge. Complain about him if you think the guy reporting to him sucks.
     
  11. Acad23

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    Look back at the previous season and certain trends emerge.

    I see an offense that is way more dynamic when it gets away from the game plan. Like when they need a last minute drive or playing from a few scores down. I don't think that's a part of Schotty's gameplan...pre-scripted or not.

    You play to your strengths and the opponents weakness. Schotty and the Jets fuck up when they forget that. It reared it's ugly head at the worst time.
     
  12. Jets201

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    Agreed...it's time. I think (hope) they unleash him next season. It all depends on Schitty...
     
  13. ThunderbirdJet

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    Yup, and Rex's attack blitzing defense worked to get us 11 wins too. But he changed that in the playoffs, didn't he? Then Belichick deferred and that worked out pretty good with us getting the ball first.

    As Sanchez gets better, being stuck with ONE approach may not be the best approach. Rex figured that out with his defense, it''s time to rethink a few other things too.
     
  14. WhiteShoeWillis

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    Yea we got one first down and punted in our opening possession @NE, then we didn't get the ball to start the second half. I don't get why people are so opposed to starting the 2nd half with the ball?

    What's the huge advantage to starting with the ball when our offense generally takes a few series to warm up?
     
  15. RapZiLLa54

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    Cotch has proven he can handle being a number one as he did in Sanchez rookie season until he got hurt /Braylon came in. Name me 5 teams that have a better WR core than we do?????
     
  16. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    The Jets traded for a #1 receiver a handful of games into the season. How does that prove Cotch is a #1? Seems to me they realized he wasn't and went out and got one.
     
  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I'm not sure that was against Cotch as it was against having Chansi Stuckey as our #2. Cotch is in a good role now and if we don't re-sign Braylon Or Santonio(I assume at least one will be back if not both) he'll be in a good spot as a #2.
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    It seems like they were both playing one spot higher than they should have been. I like Cotch but he just doesn't seem like a #1 to me. I liked Stuckey too, but he's clearly a #3.
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I agree w/ that. I hated losing Stuckey but to get someone like Braylon it was an obvious move.
     
  20. ukilledkenny

    ukilledkenny You bastards!

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    I probably can't... but that wasn't the point. He is a very good number two and a great number 3. He isn't a #1, that is why they went and got Braylon in season.

    Now name 5 teams that have a QB that could have more effectively used our WR corps this year. That one is pretty easy and I am huge Sanchez supporter. I just recognize he didn't have the ability to lead a top 5 offense this past season. He will soon enough.
     

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