NYJ Team Needs (...the day after)

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  1. 101GangGreen101

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    I think we definitely need to resign Holmes and Braylon, Sanchez is our key to any SB hopes so continue to put weapons around him ...

    Cromartie, this year he was a great investment, but I think if this team believes in Kyle Wilson and we can find another CB via FA or draft we let Cromartie walk ... he's undisciplined, he gets tons of penalties and in our secondary and when he backs off in coverage he easily gets exposed, teams will look to do that to him next season if he stays ... would he really be worth 8-10 million a season? Even a franchise tag is a bad idea when it comes to Cromartie

    Shaun Ellis - Resign for vet min to finish out career, he comes a rotational player
    Steve Weatherford - Bring him back but have some competition for him in the off-season
    Brodney Pool - Bring him back, but if he asks for too much money, let him walk
    Tony Richardson - Retiring, if he doesn't bring him back
    Braylon Edwards - Resign him first
    Wayne Hunter - Bring him back, played very well
    Trevor Pryce - Gone
    David Harris - Potentially gone, if the price is good we'll keep him, but not Willis $$$ deal
    Robert Turner - Bring him back
    Nick Folk - See Weatherford
    Antonio Cromartie - Gone
    Lance Laury - Bring back
    Santonio Holmes - Resign 2nd
    Eric Smith - Bring him back only for rotational purposes
    Brad Smith - Westoff would be angry if we don't bring him back, resign
    James Ihedigbo - Bring back
    Drew Coleman - Bring back
    Kellen Clemens - Gone
    Marquice Cole - Gone
    JT / LT - If LT wants to come back at a reduced role so be it, Greene needs to be the guy, JT absolutely gone

    DEDICATE this draft to defense, we need to restock at the defensive line with big agile football players, find a player that fits the scheme at the S position, and late in the draft take a chance at a young linebacker that can rush the passer, maybe take a corner late in the draft as well

    Bring Kris Jenkins back for the last 6 games for next season and he will have an impact on this squad
     
  2. Big Blocker

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    hazmat,

    I just didn't see much from Pool. I wonder why you think he played well.
     
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    IMO, it all depends on where the CBA discussions are at the end of the league year.
     
  4. Scikotic

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    My guess...

    Shaun Ellis - Back for 1 more year
    Steve Weatherford - Gone (TJ Conley)
    Brodney Pool - Gone
    Tony Richardson - Gone
    Braylon Edwards - Signed
    Wayne Hunter- Signed
    Trevor Pryce - Gone
    David Harris - Signed
    Robert Turner - Signed
    Nick Folk - Gone
    Antonio Cromartie - Franchised, traded
    Lance Laury - Gone
    Santonio Holmes - Signed
    Eric Smith - Signed
    Brad Smith - Signed
    James Ihedigbo - Signed
    Drew Coleman - gone
    Kellen Clemens - Signed
    Marquice Cole - gone
    Michael Turkovich - ???
    Marcus Dixon - signed
     
  5. MagillaGuerilla

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    Just bouncing shit off the wall here, but in the scenario David Harris isn't brought back, how about resigning Bryan Thomas and playing him beside Bart Scott?

    He's turned into a natural LB more so than a consistent passrusher, plus he's had experience at it the last 2 years(2009 more than 2010) when they would swap Scott outside to rush the passer. I would give him the nod over DH in coverage too.

    He's a cheap option, knows the system, and it's not like Rex necessarily needs 2 star ILBs to make his defense work...
     
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    Thank God. Rex on his presser just basically said this team is going to be built around Sanchez from here on out.
     
  7. ace_o_spades

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    Which means priorities become

    1a. Edwards
    1b. Holmes
    2. Harris
    3. Cromartie (not that I hate Cro but can you really lock up 24+ million in the CB position)
     
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    He's a good runstopper, but he's never played inside. I think you'll see him more as a rotational guy on run downs.
     
  9. Big Blocker

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    The thing about Harris is he can probably not demand as much as he might have before his relatively disappointing play.

    That may mean the Jets could afford to do all of keeping Cro and Harris, with both Edwards and Holmes as well. In short the problem I have with wish lists is that in the real world it will be the contract prices that will actually determine who is brought back.

    Having said that, my own preference is that number one should be brining back Edwards. He was the most consistent skilled position player all year, and helps the running game.

    Holmes would be next, followed by Cromartie.

    If Harris can be also signed at a good price, I would do so, but the linebacker corps otherwise needs substantial revision.

    Taylor may come back, but I can see Pace and Thomas both leaving.

    I doubt Ellis is gone, despite the criticism some have for him here. He may be the oldest of the three current starters, but he's also the best. I like Mike DeVito and Pouha, but they both have weaknesses, and objectively are no better than average for starters at their positions. Actually I think it is something a bit less than that.

    The Jets need to get at least two quality new starters in the front seven. Preferably three.
     
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    I hope Rex this summer learns to become a better all-around coach, not just be a guru on defense, but learn more about the offense, just increase his football knowledge, you can never stop learning and Rex has a great football IQ

    He needs to still build the defense, not just around Sanchez
     
  11. hazmat

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    I thought Pool did a great job the 3 games. It's tough to judge a safety by anything other then bad plays and I rarely saw him make a bad play. We saw him playing man at times, playing deep safety, playing more of a robber in a zone. He's good against the run, he's a good tackler. I thought he was horrible early in the year, I don't know if he just wasn't fitting into the system. I would be very happy with another year of Pool, Leonhard and Smith. I know people disagree.
     
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    I can't see David Harris not getting re-signed. Either Holmes or Edwards will be gone, and I have a feeling it will be Holmes.
     
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    Pace will be back. The Jets would lose money on the cap if they got rid of him.
     
  14. Mr Electric

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    That's the way it should be.
     
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    Yeah, Pace can't really be cut before 2012. It's a $2 million net cap hit if he gets cut this offseason, nor should he be. Thomas COULD be cut technically, but that places an awful lot of stress on a rookie OLB.
     
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    Well if he's a good runstopper, he already has 95% of the ILB position down pat :)
     
  17. Barry the Baptist

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    Good, you draft a QB with the #5 spot and he plays good enough to get you within an eyelash of 2 SBs. If he truly is your franchise you need to keep him surrounded with good players.
     
  18. Mr Electric

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    ...or a free agent...Antwan Barnes is available again.

    Rex Ryan coached him in Baltimore.

    He's never been a starter in this league, so he might come in cheap.
     
  19. hazmat

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    Rex said in his press conference he doesn't see how it's feasible to resign Braylon and Santonio.
     
  20. southsidejet

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    OLB and 3-4 de's I agree is a definite need. I feel that Shaun Ellis done. We keep DeVito who can fill a spot and maybe grab Cullen Jenkins in free agency if dollars allow? if Pitoatua can rehab through the injury I think he has an upside

    At OLB Thomas is also probably done. He's slowed down through this season although he remained servicable. Pace just seems meaner and has been slowed down this year by the injury

    ILBs I hadn't considered letting Harris go because of the cost element and whilst this would be a sore one it may be worth considering. What's the opinion on giving Satele or Mauga an opportunity to develop and share a spot whilst we groom a rookie?

    Woodys replacement keep Wayne Hunter and bring in a journeyman swing player to push at Vlad to step up?

    QBs Keep Clemens as a back up and toss Brunell on the heap he's done his job and look for a rookie prospect to make the back up

    Safetys. Lose Pool Keep Leonhard, E Smith and hope Lowery comes on in stride. Play Smith as a strong safety in running and short intermediate passing type situations

    I think we lose B Smith to $s I want to keep Santonio and Braylon but #10 is my first wish

    Cromartie we keep on a short contract whilst K Wilson hopefully gets the fire back

    I can't comment on draft class as I have no knowledge of NCAA and some will say of the Jets after this post
     

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