If it was Brady or P Manning, it would have not only been a penalty but a fine and maybe a suspension.
Yep there was indeed some questionable calls. I am still not convinced that was a Sanchez fumble. And that was the game changer, right there. The late hit on Sanchez was missed (15 yards) and the helmet hit on Greene (although, they missed one on us )
It's one thing for people to say that we can't blame the loss on the refs, we can't, at the end of the day you have to overcome. On the other hand, people who think the bad calls in this game didn't play a huge part of the Jets loss have their head in the sand. Just to name a few of the terrible calls in this game that were potentially game changing 1. The phantom 1st down 2. The Smith non-hit that resulted in a personal foul for hitting a defenseless receiver. 3. The forward pass by Sanchez that was called a fumble 4. The non call on Heath Miller for late hit on an endzone block after the play was dead 5. The non call on hitting Sanchez on the ground after he slid and the play was over These 5 plays are just the most obvious of a terribly officiated game.
Ed Hochuli is a fucking turd......as soon as I saw that he was reffing this game...I wanted to slit my wrists. The guy is notorious for shitty calls.....(ask Denver/SanDiego about that) Assigning Hochuli this game was Goodell's way of fucking the Jets and their fanbase in the ass.
The personal foul on E. Smith was weak. If you're going to call that, we should have got the personal foul on J. Harrison for the late hit on Sanchez. The mystifying first half cost us the game though. Talk about coming out flat.
Don't forget Brick breathing and getting called for false start, the Cromartie defensive holding after Ben started to run.
My thought is that the Sanchez fumble should have been overturned Youtube.com/watch?v=7ZWeyD4hTXE&feature=player_embedded Go to the :47 mark.. Sanchez's arm begins to slightly go forward and then the ball is knocked out.. I think that constitutes a pass.. whether it was backward or not doesn't matter as it would be tipped..
You understand there is a difference between excuses and fact. Fact is we were on the short end of the stick on a multitude of calls. The fumble return for a TD and teh late hit on Smith being the worst. Throw in a 15 yard roughing call on Westerman that at worst was a 5 yarder. He hit the guy in his foot with his hand. It's not like he plowed over the guy.
The fumble was the right call. Sorry, that's the way I saw it then and the way I see it now. The ticky-tack shit can go either way. Cro was holding on that scramble too. Rich, I'm not saying you're one of the ones crying, but this is getting ridiculous. The Westermann play had no impact on the game neither, considering Pool's INT. The Harrison play should have been called, definitely, but that had no impact on the game. Our OC fucked that drive up.
1. Don't know that one 2. Led with is crown on a receiver. That's a personal foul any day 3. Could have gone fumble or backwards pass. Either way it's a turn over. Close call but nothing to overturn what happened on the field. 4. Whistle didn't blow, legit block. That said they waited a LONG time to blow the whistle tonight. 5. This could have been called You guys got some calls too 1. Heath Miller drop on the 6 was 50/50. Ball bounced your way 2. Random measurement on 4th and short that let you change personnel (drive killer) There were no aggregious bad calls today. The closest being the Sanchez hit, and that's pretty lightweight IMO. The helmet to helmet on Greene if I'm correct was legal as he's a ball carrier (different if he's a receiver). I could deffinetly be mistaken but that's what we were told when the same thing happened to Ronnie Brown (who ironically had just caught a pass). You got a lot of PI, and Illegal touching calls that helped your drives out. Your first drive had 2 drive extending calls in itself. Officiating always leaves stuff to be desired, but the 24 point defecit you guys dug yourself in the first half was your undoing.....not the ref's.
I thnink you guys are beating your heads in saying that we believe we lost because of the officiatin... THAT IS NO WHAT WE'RE SAYING!!!! We lost because of us....we ARE saying that the Officiating played a part though... In a game like this, a call here or there could be the difference and a totally different outcome. But hey, we're all just reachin for some semblance of what the fuk just happened
The blown call that had the biggest impact on the game was the Smith penalty. That gave them a fresh set of downs when the Jets were about to get the ball back before the score got run up and a change of momentum that was huge.
If there was actually an impact, then it would have been called. However, James Harrison basically hugged him when he was on the ground.
We'll have to disagree because I think his arm was going forward and I don't think there was any point on his body where Sanchez was hit that would have caused a fumble. He got hit in the shoulder, it's not like he got his arm chopped. Our inability to tackle in the 1st half and Schotty's lacksidasical approach on that drive that ended on the 1 are why we lost.
Smith laid the guy out. I was pissed at HIM. There was no reason for it. If it was the other way around, you'd agree. Fuck, it should have been INT'd
