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    Section 227. Row 5 Active Member

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    I agree with this. The one thing that stands out about Brady is that when he stands there and has time, he WILL complete the pass (or get a pass interference call on some DB grabbing and holding). He CAN be ruffled... we've all seen that.

    Our DEF has to play insane and don't give him time no matter what. He make complete the pass to Welker anyway, but make him work for it. Make him thread the needle EVERY time, not just give him the easy completion by not putting any pressure on him.
     
  2. BrooklynJetsFan

    BrooklynJetsFan Well-Known Member

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    There is no 3 and out with the Pats. If it's 4th and 3 they are going for it. plain and simple.

    The key to winning is running the ball to generate long TD drives which effectively keeps Brady off the field. Otherwise we are in for a tough afternoon.

    Also, we can't settle for FGs in the redzone either. We need to take chances on 4th down aswell.
     
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    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Instead of just saying you're gonna beat the shit out of his receivers, actually fucking do it Cro. You're a pansy, you play 7 yards off the LOS and your man still beats you. You're bigger than anybody you'll be lining up against, use that to your advantage.
     
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    I think the game will be much closer than most people think. I like our chances.

    We need the breaks/turnovers even, any pats advantage there will be tough to overcome.

    We need Sanchez on target. If he throws like he did against the Colts, we are toast.

    Defense will be fine.

    Running game will be shut down if the Pats don't have to respect Sanchez's ability to hit Edwards and Holmes down the field. We'll have opportunities here early. IMO game will come down to us taking advantage of some of these opportunities early.
     
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    This is especially so because BB has had plenty of time to watch that Colts game and study what we did. Plugging in what made us successful in Indianapolis is a recipe for disaster in Foxboro.

    We have to do many different things. BB and Brady will expect us to play the same basic defensive schemes we used on Peyton. Brady has to be thrown off pace, which means mixing it up constantly and giving him what he isn't ready for.
     
  6. Steve032

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    Good post WSW.

    The Jets have to keep the game close. If they get down 2+ scores, I don't like our chances. I agree about Mark starting off hot. We need to get him into a rhythm early on to avoid us getting too far behind.

    Our defense might have had their best game of the season against the Colts. Rex probably had his best gameplan of the season as well, so I'm hoping he's got something effective to stop Brady
     
  7. James Calvin

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    Hold them to 14 points (or less). They don't win in low scoring games.

    Only way to do that is controlling the time of possession.... That how we beat them, the Colts beat them and the Packers (almost) beat them. If it's a defensive battle they lose, especially in the second half.... their D will wear out.

    Power running, and not dropping the damn ball when it's thrown are critical. Making the tackles on short passes. Since the Jets got back to some fundamentals in the late season, they've looked better.
     
  8. Big Blocker

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    I usually find myself in agreement with your game analyses, and agree with most of what you say here. One little quibble is while I still think Manning is slightly better than Brady, Manning had much less to work with in the way of receivers to go to. I therefore think it likely that the Pats will score more than 16 points.

    The Jets survived a mediocre offensive first half against Indy. They cannot do that against the Pats.

    And the D's challenge will be greater than Indy was. That being the case, a key factor imo is whether the Jet secondary can cover Brady's options at receiver enough to keep the Jets in the game. In fact I think along with establishing the running game, which the Jets will have at least some success with, special teams as you indicate, and which Sanchez shows up will be the keys to the game.

    I don't know which Sanchez will show up, and we will have to wait and see, but aside from that, the big question mark of those key factors will the Jets' pass coverage of NE's receivers.
     
  9. AbdulSalam

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    The Jets will win the game if they score more points than the paytoilets. The Jets have the talent to get the job done to make the plays to neutralize and contain Brady. If the Jets play Jets Football - The Jets will win the game.
     
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    Reading my previous post I think it probably deserves clarification that I don't necessarily think that as a group the Indy receivers are much less talented than NE's. But talent among the NE receivers is more spread out, and this presents matchup problems for the Jets, who have loads of talent in Revis and Cro, but after that not so much. Revis and Cro did a great job, with the obvious exception of Garcon's TD, and the other Indy receivers did not do much. NE has more talent after Welker and Branch than Indy had that far down the receiver options.
     
  11. PatsFan2003

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    I think the Jets will come up with one time consuming drive but I think they might need two.

    Obvious but the Jets do need to conduct a methodical type of offense of runs with some timely passes thrown in. A shot or two downfield could garner a big play and shouldn't be ignored but they really do need to stay with their strength.

    I think the Jets will need to put pressure on Brady via blitzes but they need to be timely and well disguised.

    I think the Patriot receivers will get their catchs but the Jets defenders will need to tackle well and prevent the Patriots from moving the chains.

    The Jets will have to deal with the Patriots 2nd and 3rd options well. You know that's either going to be a TE or Woodhead and if they can't handle those guys well the whole secondary will start to show cracks.
     
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    on the $$$$ we get behind by 10.....its OVER with our impotent offense
     
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    Yeah, I think so too. Even if they could get a pick and score to.
     
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    Think we're going to see Weatherford fake one?
     
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    I just watched 7 games of the Pats highlights on NFL.com. The common theme throughout their blowout wins was the vast turnover differential which they took huge advantage of. It simply wasn't all about their offense, it was about the opponent making mistakes and giving them a short field.
    The Pats D can be pushed around. We need to smack them hard up front from the get go.

    If we can protect the ball, and sustain some drives, we win. Another key is continuing to make big plays on special teams, could be the difference again for us. Punting and kick returns will be critical.
     
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    1 - Nacho needs to get in a rhythm early on.
    Schottenheimer needs to help him out here by giving him some jump slants, and inside passes, wheel routes etc early. Sanchez 65% We win.


    2 - Establish the run early.
    Two TE. Keller and Hunter (bring in Vlad as tackle) Hunter has shown that he gets ignored in passing situations, and gets open. NE will never see it coming.


    3 - At least 2 long, time consuming drive
    This too.

    4- Manhandle receivers at the LOS
    Throw his timing off, piss them off, don't commit fouls five yards down field.


    Those four things happen...we win, and Buck Frady panics late in 3rd qtr and starts getting hit....

    If you see him get knocked down a couple times in the 3rd and we are ahead by 4+...Game over.
     
  18. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Hey SCHITTY!!! SHORT F*NG PASSING GAME....


    thank you

    we now return you to our regularly scheduled program.
     
  19. RevisOfNazareth

    RevisOfNazareth New Member

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    Bingo. Shit, you can even learn this lesson on Madden for fucks sake by running a blitz play on the goal line hoping for a safety when your opponent runs a hail mary, and that is:

    3rd and 17+Blitz+Weak DLine=1st Down
     
  20. Jetfanmack

    Jetfanmack haz chilens?

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    Exactly. ST's is a place where we could easily have the advantage on them.

    And remember, if it comes down to a big kick late, they have Shayne Graham, who killed the Bengals' chances in the 1st round last year. They also have a rookie punter, though he does appear to be a good one.

    I'm really excited to see Cromartie return kicks. He's got explosion Smith doesn't have. I'm a little more worried about a fumble, especially after he opened his mouth, but you can just see his speed and explosion. Smith is a very good athlete. Cromartie is an all-world athlete.
     

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