Jets Fans Going To Foxborough Don't Forget....

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  1. DbaJets

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    Well, maybe you would be if you were thinking about the Jonas brothers while doing her like he was...
     
  2. hagen910

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    Check this out. Posted on WEEI.com about jets fans.

    If I can start out here with a bit of shameless self-promotion. Some time ago the bosses at WEEI.com asked me if I’d be interested in doing some video for them. The general idea was a man-in-the-street type of thing, interviewing fans at various sporting events. Sort of like Jay Leno’s "Jaywalking" segment, except hopefully entertaining.

    So I more or less jumped at the chance. First, because I’m the youngest of five in a loud Irish Catholic Boston family, so any chance I have to get people pay attention to me, I’ll take. And, second, because I’m not an expert at many things, but if there’s one subject I can rightfully claim to be an expert on, it’s sports fans.

    I’m not a stats guy. I’m not a gambler. I’m lousy at picking against the spread. A Magic 8 Ball makes better predictions than I do. But studying an understanding the people in the stands, in the bars and scoring the game at home has been my life’s work.

    So with that in mind, I came up with the name “Fanthropolgy,” and the bosses approved. We’ve done a handful of them so far, you can check them out here to see how successful we’ve been so far ... well, judge for yourself.

    But the reason I bring this up is because this week I’m excited about this project like I’ve never been excited before. Because this Sunday one of my favorite species of sports fan is coming to town, and I finally get to capture it on camera. The genus Meadowlanda Ganggreenus.

    New York Jets fans.

    I don’t know what it is about them, but I’ve been fascinated by Jets fans my whole life. Everything about them. Their customs. Their beliefs. Their superstitions. Their language. The way they worship. Mating habits. Their whole existence just enthralls me somehow.

    Growing up in New England, and by extension the AFC East, I’ve gotten a lot of opportunity to study Jets fans’ culture. I’ve watched them at distance. Studied films of them. Had encounters with them up here in Foxboro. And because my friends and I used to make an annual road trip down to the Meadowlands, I’ve been able to observe them in their native habitat. And I can tell you they are endlessly interesting creatures.

    I think the main reason I’m fascinated by Jets fans is the same reason any anthropologist studies a past civilization or why Jane Goodall studied primates: Because in many ways they remind us of ourselves. Learning about the people who follow the J! E! T! S! is a way to learn more about who we are.

    Because the Jets fans are us. That is, the us of 25 years ago. In many ways, their culture is just a less evolved version of our own. Think about it. What were our lives like back oh, say, in the year 1985 AD? We were barely eking out an NFL existence. Life was nothing but hardship. On the field, the Patriots were one of the least successful franchises in the history of sports. Off the field, they were a constant circus of bad characters, embarrassing incidents, habitual criminal offenders, hapless coaches and management buffoons.

    So success was defined down. We graded on the scale. While other teams strove for championships, we were content with a playoff spot or even just being over .500. Anything better than last place and firing the coach was considered progress. Even on the rare occasion the Pats had actual, real, genuine success, it was short lived. The greatest moment the Pats had in that era was the improbable run to Super Bowl XX, and even that set news world record for futility and humiliation.

    So we lowered our expections. And the low standards carried over into the stands. Schaefer/Sullivan/Foxboro wasn’t so much a football stadium as it was a complete breakdown in the societal order. A descent into madness and chaos. It was "Lord of the Flies" with beer.

    Is any of this starting to sound familiar? Subtract that one Super Bowl appearance and you’ve got the New York Jets of the past 40 years. Failure. Incompetence. Wasted draft picks. Criminals and baby daddies. A chain of fools through the coach’s office. And a laughingstock franchise that was picked as the fifth worst in NFL history in ESPN’s all-time power rankings last year.

    And like those primitive Patriots fans of long ago, the Jets fans in the stands have also been a reflection of their team. The old Giants Stadium was Kurt Russell in an eye patch away from being "Escape from New York." Fanthropologists with doctorates in Jets Fan Studies will tell you that they’re only contribution to civilization has been the ritual of dropping money down at the bottom of stadium ramps, then pouring beer and hocking loogies on any kid or old person who stopped to pick it up. And their only contribution to the language is "Show us your t**s!"

    And yet, somehow, there’s something endearing about the window-licking little lobotomites. I mean it. For all the failure and degradation, Jets fans have always managed to find reason to believe things are getting better. That they’re on the verge of greatness. It’s amazing.

    Possibly no fan base in all of sports has witnessed fewer accomplishments and celebrated them more than the Jets' has. In 1998, Bill Parcells led the Jets to the AFC championship game and had them leading in the third quarter until Denver came back and won. When the Patriots did the exact same thing in 2006, losing to Indianapolis, we called that season a "disappointment" and rarely speak of it. But to a man, Jets fans treated '98 like it was the beginning of a dynasty.

    The same thing with last season. Gang Green went to the AFCCG on the strength of a playoff run against two of the most underachieving franchises of the modern era (Cincy and San Diego) and it was all the city of New York could do not to send the team down the Canyon of Heroes. Contrast that to two years earlier when the Pats lost a perfect season in the last minute of the Super Bowl, a moment we hold up as the gold standard for crushed expectations.

    Because again as I said, Patriots fans have evolved in ways the Jets fans haven’t. Where we look at a playoff loss as costing us a championship, they see miracles happening. They’re like those primitive tribesmen on isolated islands in the Pacific who saw bombers fly over head and worshiped them as gods because they didn’t know any better. It’s naive, but it’s admirable at the same time.

    And like so many other non-advanced societies, the Jets fans have a shaman they follow. A superstitious "wise man" whom they believe has magic powers. I’ve studied the one they call "Fireman Ed" for decades now, and as far as I can tell the only thing that sets him apart from the rest of the tribe is his elaborate headdress. He doesn’t do anything particularly special. He doesn’t do "Baby Elephant Dance" like Dancing Homer did for the Springfield Isotopes. He just watches the game while wearing a hat. But that’s enough to give him sway over these noble savages. If you’re an old enough Pats fan, you might recall a similar figure in Patriots history, the one we called SuperPatriot. But rather than follow him, or give his own iPhone app like Fireman Ed, we just pelted SuperPatriot with snowballs.

    So this is my challenge for the game Sunday. To know as much as I can about these people before I walk among them taping interviews. And to that end, I’m learning their language. How they communicate. I’ve studied the thread on JetsInsider.com about how Danny Woodhead’s head injury in Week 17 is proof that the Jets did the right thing in letting him go to New England. And the one that says WEEI "has fueled the violence that you see from Pats fans toward Jet fans." And my personal favorite, the one on GangGreen.com called "Midnight Service at the Darrelle Revis House of Worship."

    Because I want to be ready. It’s rare that even the most hardcore Fanthropologist gets to study such a rare and fascinating breed. And since their season will be over, this is the last chance any of us will get for a while. Thanks in advance for your cooperation, Jets fans.
     
  3. Jerseyboyisback

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    What if someone broke bradys leg before the game like saturday!!
     
  4. nyjcanada

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    I did lol at this.
     
  5. Dalai Lama

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    I doubt most Patriots fans would even notice a Green Beans fan throwing a punch at them. Most of the ones I've seen are around 5-3, 135 pounds. Except, of course, if it's a woman (5-3, 180-ish). How tall is Ed the Angry Fire Elf?
     
  6. ace_o_spades

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    You spend a lot of time around middle school kids?
     
  7. Dalai Lama

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    No, why would you think that? I was referring to you and your fellow fans. But now that you mention it, there are some striking similarities.
     
  8. ace_o_spades

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    Well I thought you were saying that most of the Jet fans you've encountered happened to be children. Now I see you were attempting to talk trash. Well, I give you credit...you went for it. Feeble attempt though, the old "(insert team) fans are short and fat" routine is tired and not even the least bit funny.

    Your avatar is pretty creative...if you made it yourself I'm sure you could come up with something better.
     
  9. NEtroll

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    That may do it. If not, curtains:smile:
     
  10. ace_o_spades

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    I'd laugh. Usually I don't care about injuries and just shrug them off as part of the game but it would be funny if somebody broke Tom Brady's leg.

    Call me an asshole I don't care but I'd laugh. If somebody told Tom Brady some random Jet fan in Jersey got his leg broken he'd probably laugh too.
     
  11. hagen910

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    i love the stupid back and forth. when does the who has class arguments start
     
  12. ace_o_spades

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    We're die hard fans of a football team. None of us have class, no matter how much we try to convince ourselves we do.
     
  13. RMorin

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    As someone who is a Jets season ticket holder living in Massachusetts that goes to every Jets game at Foxboro as well for the past 5 seasons I can unequivocally say that the Pats fans are FAR bigger idiots then Jets fans.

    For the Pats-Jets games in NJ I have brought coworkers from Mass who are Pats fans and who wear jerseys etc., and they keep to themselves and the worse anyone has done to them is tell them "nice jersey" sarcastically or maybe once or twice called them "fag". On the whole the Jets fans don't start shit unless someone gives them a reason to. (I have uppers, so it's not like I'm around the millionaires who sit in the suites)

    In New England however, the fans are wanna be tough guys from the suburbs. I know not to start shit, so I don't and don't even drink when I go there in case something goes down. Also I always have gone with a group of Pats fans so it's not like i'm out by myself. To give some context to these stories I am in a profession where a criminal charge (such as assualt) could cost me my career, which is why I didn't just fight these guys.

    Of the things Pats Fans have done:

    Actually tackled me from behind while walking down their stupid fucking ramps that take 30 minutes to get to the upper deck. Some middle aged Pats fan pulled the guy off of me.

    Pushed me from behind on the concourse and said "get the fahk out of our house!"

    Came over to our tailgate (10 ish people where I am the only one wearing a Jets jersey) got literally right next to my face and said and I quote "YOU COME TO ROBERT KRAFTS STADIUM AND WEAR A FAHKING JETS JERSEY?!?!?" (my buddies pushed the guy away and called him an idiot)

    Called me a n***** (Im a 25 year old white dude, wearing a Hispanic dudes jersey
    (Sanchez) WTF?)

    Saw a father and son wearing Jets jerseys, where the kid was probably like 8 walking into the stadium (from their stupid fucking parking lots 45 minute walk from the stadium) and a Pats fan goes up to the kid and and says "do you know that your daddy sucks dicks?" and runs off like the bitch that he is.

    Don't get me wrong Jets fans are rowdy as hell and can occasionally start fights, and I'm sure that most Pats fans aren't dumb-asses but those entitled idiots in Gilette are worse then the Jets fans by far.
     
  14. Dufflebagz

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    Just because you don't see it doesn't mean one fanbase is worse than the other. Everything could be fine in your section but on the other side of the stadium a Pats fan might be getting his ass kicked, same goes for Jets fans at Gillette. Every fanbase has assholes.

    :shit:
     
  15. mystikol

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    Jets Fans Going To Foxborough Don't Forget...

    ....to NOT say you are JohnnyThatJet. He is BANNED from the stadium!1!!!11!!1!

    Also, make sure you put "Foxboro" Stadium into your GPS.
     
  16. Fightfan

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    I'm pretty sure anything a Jets fan throws would either be way to high or get intercepted.
     
  17. BiG CHoPz

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    Boom.

    Roasted
     
  18. dubagedi

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    The close you are to the field, the safer opposing fans are. The 100's- either long time season ticket holders who are above that shit and will be pretty civil, or season ticket holders re-sell for so much that the only people who show up are rich as fuck and aren't looking for a fight.

    200-s, mostly the same but you have some less tenured ticket holders plus more single game tickets I think. Tickets a little cheaper too. But still pretty solid people I would say.

    300s- Newest season ticket holders, most turnover from game to game, also the cheapest seats, which tend to attract your typical drunk asshole. DO NOT DO YOUR FUCKING J-E-T-S CHANT if you are sitting in the 300s. There's kind of a level of luck but I've gone to pretty much every major game for the past 12 years and where I'm sitting as long as opposing fans aren't assholes they aren't that likely to get much shit. Most people will just be disgusted by you but not say anything.

    Edit: Another way of explaining this, is to take the square of your seating level to find out the percentage of people around you who are going to be raging alcoholic massholes.
     
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  19. Dufflebagz

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    200's - Wine and cheese crowd
     
  20. dubagedi

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    I'm excluding the luxury boxes at the middle of the field. Anyone sitting there probably isn't on this site.
     

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