I Can't Believe We Have Folk As A Kicker...

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  1. Weezy

    Weezy New Member

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    It never ceases to amaze me that fans find some way to be negative when a guy does a good job. Who cares if it was a dome or that there was no wind.....the guy made a clench FG. Way to go Nick!
     
  2. guinness77

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    Only you could find a way to argue about this.
    Get your ass off the couch and try to kick a playoff winning FG in a hostile environment with millions of people depending on you, and then tell me how fucking easy of a "chip shot" it was.
    I'm not arguing about this, whether it was 20 yards or 50 yards. It's the same amount of pressure either way. You could argue the closer, the "easier" the kick, the more pressure to make the "gimme."
     
  3. tdoublee

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    At one time Folk was one of the top 3 or 4 kickers in the NFL, then he tore his hip flexor. He rehabbed, adjusted his kicking style, and now looks like his is on his way back to being where he used to be. He saved our season in Indy and I think the best is yet to come. He has earned his keep IMO.
     
  4. Mr Electric

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    Nick Folk is 6 for 6 over the last four games.
     
  5. MBGreen

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    according to junc, Folk ALMOST missed yesterday.........still can't trust him. :rofl:
     
  6. IATA

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    Folk 6/6 in almost missed kicks. Cut that mofo!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. rohirrim665

    rohirrim665 Well-Known Member

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    What was with him all of the sudden kicking it into the endzone this game? Never a better time to start doing that I suppose.
     
  8. nyjunc

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    I forgot you used to kick in the NFL.

    It's his JOB and a 32 yarder is a chip shot especially in a dome. Did you see Vinatieri nail a 50 yarder w/ the game ont he line like it was a PAT?

    You feel comfortable every time he lines up for a kick?

    I feel embarrassed to be associated w/ people who just do not understand this game. it's like they are 10 years old and everything is rosy in their worlds. Please come back to reality, it's great that he hit a chip shot(barely) to win the game but if that kick is 40 yds we likely aren't playing today. He's had a good year overall and I am happy w/ him but that doesn't mean I trust him in a big spot. This is a guy who has banged PATs off the crossbar.
     
  9. Kentucky Jet

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    The guy won a playoff game with a clutch kick for us with no time on the clock. He has kicked 30 of 39 FGs for us and did not miss an extra point. Your point is?

    Janikowski misses FGs; David Akers, a pro bowl kicker missed two yesterday! How many games did FOLK cost us as a result of missing FGs? We do know he won a few games with FGs. Your point is?
     
  10. Kentucky Jet

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    Do you feel confident every time Sanchez throws wild, high like yesterday? In time FOLK will earn our confidence. Didn't Feely miss two in a playoff for us? FOLK gets dumped on by far too many fans due to poor publicity when he was signed. i trust in REX & Westoff to know what they are doing and pick the personnel they want to go forward with.


    Akers, a pro bowl kicker missed one from what you call " a chip" shot. Any Fg kicked under pressure is NOT an easy kick. Ask Akers and Feely and Keading in SD.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I feel a heck of alot more confidence in mark than I do in nick Folk.

    Akers has earned the right to have a bad game. The guy has lived in postseason and his kicks were OUTDOORS.

    Just b/c the Jets make moves that doesn't mean you have to lie and pretend they are all great. We let Feely go in order to get jason taylor to help the pass rush- how has that worked out? feely was one of the best K's in the league while we had an up and down kicker all year.

    Again, I think Folk had a good year overall but there's no way anyone can convince me that they feel good w/ him lining up to kick a FG. He made it and that's all that really matters but he slid a chip shot in, compare that to vinatieri who put a 50 yarder right down the middle.
     
  12. Kentucky Jet

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    I used to live on the Nassau- Suffolk border in Farmingdale, right off Rt. 109. ( Baldwin Street)


    I agree withy you on the kick. It was a pressure kick and it was made. They used to say FOLK could not kick under pressure. now they are saying it was a chip shot. They are exposed! They are anti-Folk and no matter what he does or doesn't do, they will find fault with him. Who cares? The man kicked a game winning FG under extreme pressure. He won; they lose!
     
  13. Kentucky Jet

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    Sanchez left 14 +points on the field with erratic throws. There would have been no need for FOLK to kick a FG in order to win the game if Sanchez was accurate and in an indoor stadium no less! Yet you feel confident in him. Oh well. There is no sense to prolong this. FOLK won the game by kicking under immense pressure and making it. Other kickers have not made similar kicks under similar circumstances. I am glad that we have FOLK and just get used to the crap always being thrown on him by his critics. He wins; you lose!

    Akers missed kick are being attributed to personal problems he experienced this week not the wind or cold or any other outside conditions. He gets paid to make those kicks! He does NOT have an earned right to miss them and not be criticized. He might have lived in post-season but he helped a team to die in a postseason game yesterday!

    Vinateri is a Hall of Fame kicker. Yet he has missed some in his career! Did that give his critics ammunition to doubt him? FOLK is a young guy. Lets see how his career unfolds before we doubt him. 30 of 39 is not that bad. How many games did he cost us this year? He won one the biggest: Colts are dead as a result! I think kicking in that situation shows that FOLK can kick under pressure which was the biggest knock on him in the beginning when we got him. I think some fans are just looking for ways to be critical of him.
     
  14. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Sanchez struggled in that 1st half but he played very well in the 2nd half and led us to the win, getting his shaky K in position for a chip shot FG whioch was HUGE. he didn't pull a Peyton 2005 vs. Pitt where he got his shaky Kicker in position for a 46-47 yarder when he had the opportunity to get closer.

    Akers deserves criticism but i'd feel much more comfortable w/ Akers kicking than folk despite the one bad game for Akers.


    I worry about folk making PATs so obviously I'm not feeling super confident he's going to kick a 32 yarder even though it is a chip shot. The most impotant thing is that he keeps making them but I have a hard time believing he would have made it had it been from 40 or greater- thankfully we didn't see that thanks to sanchez, the O and the great KR by Cro.
     
  15. guinness77

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    Oh....I forgot you know who I am. I'm not going to get into it, but I've played at a pretty high level in basketball and soccer. I was once good enough to be recruited by multiple mid-major D1 programs and have played with more than a handful of guys who either played in the pros or for elite NCAA schools---yes, even your precious UNC. I've also played with some guys whoe ended up playing in the professional soccer leagues in this country and overseas. Not that I would usually care to offer this kind of information because I'm a 34 year old guy now and that was a while ago, but....
    You consider a free throw a "chip shot?"
    You consider a penalty kick a "chip shot?"
    Curious, because, you're right, I've never kicked a game-winning FG, but, I've stood at the stripe in some pretty damn important games, and I've had the opportunity to take some PKs in some pretty damn important spots.

    Both high percentage, "should make them plays", no?
    Both are "gimmes?"
    I fail to see the difference, because the pressure is high. Both instances I've described are pretty damn nerve wracking. I had enough people depending on me, certainly not tens of millions of people.
    So, please, give the guy a little credit. David Akers missed some pretty makeable kicks yesterday.
     
  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    That's great, I'm happy for you and i wish you the best but the facts are a 32 yard kick is a chip shot. if it had been outside and been windy or field conditions been poor maybe it wouldn't have been a chip shot but this was in perfect conditions w/ great footing. It was a chip shot.

    A FT is a poor comparison, any player can shoot FTs but you only have one kicker. Some guys just cannot shoot but if a guy is an 80% FT shooter I expect them to be at least an 80% FT shooter in the clutch. Kickers do nothing but kick and they are expected to make a 32 yd kick.


    I give Folk credit, I have said over and over he has had a good season but should I lie and say I feel great about him when he lines up to kick? I don't think if that kick was 40 yds or more he would have made it. as it was he gave me a near heart attack as the ball looked like it started going right and just slid inside the post.

    I don't care about David Akers or any other kickers, I care about our kicker. Folk has had a good year overall but I'm going to be nervous whenever he kicks the ball. I cannot help it, I've seen him miss too many easy kicks and even miss a PAT in preseason and hit the crossbar on a PAT in the reg season.
     
  17. guinness77

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    Listen, I could care less about this argument. A FT and a FG are pretty simliar and so is the pressure in both situations. Arguing about this is pretty stupid. You almost sound like you want the guy to miss....
    Here, I gotta practice for my upcoming daughter anyways....

    You win.
     
  18. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I don't want the guy to miss but I am also realistic. You sound like you were 100% sure he would make it.

    The pressure for a FT and FG can be simialr, the best guys can block out distractions and focus on their routine and knocked them down but Folk does nothing but kick, he is not responsible for anything else but kicking so it's nto fair to compare him to someone like Shaq who cannot hit FTs under any circumstances.
     
  19. jerseyjet0912

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    ok we can get off folk's dick now...it was a 32 yarder in a dome he better have made it or he would have had to enter the witness protection program
     
  20. JetsKickAss

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    The ball made it only by a few feet....look at the replay, it actually CURVED away from the post for a split-second and then started curving back....had it continued, we could have lost (look at Akers yesterday).

    I can't believe the Jets were content to set up a 45yd-plus FG once they got the ball down the the 34 with 28 secs and 1 TO left.
     

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