For this mock i assumed we keep Edwards, Holmes, Harris, and Cro. 1st J.J. Watt DE- Wisconsin Like Many here I like him a lot. Great motor, Great intangibles Great effort. I made a first round mock and to my shock he fell to us so I kept here for this mock if he falls to us would make a great replacement for Ellis and a d-line leader to build around. My only Question is how much room for improvement he has. 2nd/3rd- Justin Houston OLB Georgia/ Steven Friday OLB Virgina Tech Both Very Good Rush Linebacker Picks. Either would massively improve our pass rush across from pace. And both played in complex systems in college . 4th Ian Williams NT - Notre Dame I think he'll fall due to his injury he should be higher. He's big strong and can force a double team and rotate in with Pouha until he has more experience. 5th Chris Rucker S- Michigan State / Nate Williams S- Washington I think Rucker falls due to off the field issues he played corner at Michigan State and has great size. He can man up against Te's or slot receivers which we require from our safeties. But if he's not there than i really like Nate Williams here. 6th Graig Cooper HB - Miami If we still are having doubts about McKnight Cooper would make a great 3rd down back. he's a very good receiver great speed good blocker but never put up great numbers, although he was at the u where they have a very good stable of backs. 7th Bryant Turner OLB - UAB No experience standing up, not great speed, played lesser competition and didn't put up huge numbers. But would make a good situational pass rusher and a project which is fine as a 7th. Merry Christmas. Edit: My bad wrong forum. please move to draft forum.
I really like the first four picks, but five of our six draft picks can't be spent on defense...especially if that only offensive pick is Graig Cooper. Your description of Bryant Turner doesn't make any sense - since when does lack of speed and no experience = a good situation pass rusher? Joe McKnight > Graig Cooper If we ended up with Watt, Houston, Rucker/Williams and Williams, I'd be excited for the future of our defense...but it would hurt this team to spend almost every pick on defensive players.
I think it's pretty clear that our first 3 picks should be defense. Getting offensive line and WR/TE depth later would be smart, but depending on what we do in free agency, the Jets need younger players at OLB, FS, and DE/NT. Our draft should look like the Ravens draft from last year. My mock would look like: 1) Jeremy Beal OLB 2) Rahim Moore FS 4) Marvin Austin DL (Might not be here, but he didn't play much this season and his stock has dropped significantly.) 5) Joseph Barksdale OL 6) Greg Salas WR 7) Matt Bosher K/P Fills most of our big needs, although Austin likely wouldn't be there in the 4th and Salas could go a little higher than the 6th.
If we kept Edwards/Holmes and LT is fine to go another year id have no issue spending 5 of 6 draft picks on defense. I mean wed still have 3 monster WRs, 3 serviceable hbs, our young franchise QB, at least 2 good TEs, a ton of beast players on our OL locked up, then Slauson proved this year hes more than serviceable on the OL and hopefully Ducasse should be ready to contribute in a year. Sure itd be nice to get some depth on the Oline, but I just think theres so many more holes to fill on the defense that need to be addressed. Not to mention MOST of the guys on our offense are quite young where as our defense is really fricken old. Sanchez/Vlad/Green/McKnight/3WRs/2TEs/Brick/Man/Slaus these guys are all quite young. Where as our defensive line is borderline useless, our OLBs are quite below avg, and we have huge issues @ safety. Considering how much Rex has done with this defense with all of its shortcomings, I could just imagine the defense with some young abled bodies. And I could be wrong on this, but doesnt Rex have some kind of philosophy against going DL early on ? Thought I read this offseason that hes a fan of picking guys up as UFA or later on and building them up into contributors
If Vladimir Ducasse isn't ready to play in 2011, we'll have a glaring hole at right tackle. This team still lacks a true option in the slot and we may lose Edwards/Holmes. LaDainian Tomlinson is basically a rental. I love what he's done for this team, but he's not going to be here much longer. Another between-the-tackles runner is needed to pair with Shonn Greene.
also, tanny has a history of trading picks for players, or trading picks to trade up for a needs player. so any mock draft should include some of this. plus with NE so loaded with draft picks, they can afford to take a player they don't necessarily need just to keep him off the jets roster. kinda like what we did with gholston!
Jerricho Cotchery is not a monster receiver. He's an afterthought in our offense now. J-Co's a solid receiver, but I think a ton of NYJ fans overrate him. Serviceable is the perfect words for our running back situation. They get the job done, but they rarely do anything special. Shonn Greene is obviously our future at the position, but we could use another powerful back when LT leaves. 2 good tight ends? I hope to god you aren't calling Ben Hartsock a good player.
Ok only one good tightend, but 2 more TEs who can step in as useful blockers. Though im hoping Cumberland will be on the active roster next year as I think he might just be able to stick around for a while. And Cotchery isnt a monster WR in the sense that he could compete with the big dogs like Andre Johnson and Roddy White, but hes gotta be better than at least 30 teams third receiver on their depth charts, and I dont think our offense would miss a beat if a WR missed a few games and we had to have JCo play 2nd fiddle for a while. But as you said Jco is an afterthought in this offense mostly because we only utilize 3 wr formations so often, and when we do its hard for Sanchez to go through that many targets when you got 2 great wrs, and a great receiving te/hb ahead of him. So if we kept Holmes/Braylon drafting a WR isnt really a significant need. And who knows we still got Turner on the PS I think
I hope we bring back Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes. We'll more than likely franchise one of them and the other will get an extension. ...but if one of them leaves... Justin Blackmon, Michael Floyd, Julio Jones, or Jonathan Baldwin may be available when we pick in the first round. If we have as shot at any of these kids, we should pull the trigger. This 2011 receiver class is LOADED.
Floyd is similar and I think can be a bigger playmaker later in the game. He's one of those guys who show up in the 4th quarer. Edwards has never done that here and I know I'll get shit for saying that from someone, but its true. He's not clutch. Holmes must be extended. He's too special to let go. He is going to want the bigger payday.
Gotta ask but IF we lost BE/Holmes wouldnt it be safe to say wed do a tag and trade ? Or at the least get a compensatory pick ? So we still could draft those 5 defensive guys AND that wr AND someone for the ol
This one really hurts to say but I'm not that excited about the prospect of Jonathan Baldwin on the Jets. He's had a shit attitude this past season with Pitt and Sunseri and he's flat out given up on plays that could have been made. Part of that is due to Wannstedt's using him solely as a deep threat this season and taking away most of his intermediate routes but the effort just wasn't there this season and his handling of the coaching change was far from mature or professional. He's has a lot of talent and his size/speed are fantastic. However he's also bringing a lot of maturity issues with him as well. He's going to need to address that shit.
I love the way Mike Floyd plays. If it wasn't for AJ Green, he'd be the best jump ball receiver in all of college football. I don't agree with you on Braylon Edwards. To me, it seems like something clicked with Edwards since his DUI. He's made a lot of tough catches lately and he's kept his mouth shut about being the second option now that Holmes is here. It would be nice to bring in some young blood at the position, but keeping our current receiving corps together will be huge for Mark Sanchez. The chemistry is there. These guys know the offense already.
I've heard about these issues and they worry me a little bit. I put a lot of the blame on the coaching staff too though. Do you know if he's having any problems with Frank Cignetti? Cignetti seemed to always have problems with his quarterbacks and wideouts at Fresno.
Edwards made big plays in the Steelers game.. and the Pats game.. and the Fins game 1.. oh, and this.. [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpwC9gRC5T4[/YOUTUBE] Come on man you are being unfair to Edwards. He really hasn't had that many opportunities to make the big plays late in games since Holmes has been here.. and let's be honest, he doesn't have a great quarterback to work with, or a good offensive coordinator. I think it's unfair to label him unclutch or say he doesn't show up.
That would be nice, wouldn't it? If we end up losing one of them, it will also free up some cash and that will allow us to go out and get some decent free agents. Signing Dawan Landry should be one of our biggest priorities. A stopgap right tackle might be a necessary pick up too.
You can knock Mark Sanchez all you want, but that throw he made to Edwards in that video was "great". The deep throw he made to Edwards in the Pittsburgh game last week was "great". Sanchez has shown flashes of brilliance. He's a second year quarterback that's shown some inconsistency. What do you expect?
i think our top 4 needs are all on d. and we have a chance to get very good players for all of those spots which leaves a 6th and a 7th. I don't see any tackles in those spots that could realistically start next year over Vlad. Same is true for wide receiver since i think we keep Holmes and Edwards. As for turner ya i didn't describe him well he has good speed just not great speed, he also had good production as a DE he just didn't dominate. also he would have been higher most likely if he wasn't injured this year. I think he has potential just not yet there. He's a project if you can find a better project here than fell free to substitute.
