You don't seem to get I have a million people coming at me, I apologize if I generalize sometimes or even get certain posters confused. People can have civil discussions if they act civilly, most people attack me rather than the argument and that is where these debates go off track. Show me where someone proved the jason taylor play against NE was a HUGE play and we don't win w/o it? I think you misread that quote, I said 95% of the board is smarter than you:beer:
So your definition of a big play is only one that completely ends the game? How exactly do you prove that without the play we don't win the game? How do you prove the play was meaningless? How is a big play determined. Since Smith ran that KO for a TD in the first couple of seconds, I guess that is not a big play correct? I want to see junc's rules for what constitutes a big play and what doesn't. Plus bless us with more of your criteria for "game winning shots" and "game winning drives" that don't matter because "they missed before". In that line of thinking, no plays really matter, Jordan's game winners don't matter because he missed shots earlier in the game. Your arguments are just maddening.
I am not just talking to you, why don't people understand this? i don't know how you felt about the signing, this is about the play he made against NE and how big it actually was. jason has always been a great frontrunning player, making plays when things go well for his team but struggling to make plays in big spots when his team desperately needs him
We were up 14 w/ 4 mins to play, we had a big safety net. We didn't have that on Sunday, that was a legit huge play. Against NE it was a somewhat big play but the odds are we are winning whether he makes that play or not You completely missed the point about Jordan. The point was someone posted that Brady had 20 something comebacks so he was telling me that meant they were going to win that game b/c of that but he has more that he didn't complete so the notion that b/c he has so mnay comebacks that NE was going to win this one is completely false. It could have happened, the odds were very low w/ the time left and needing 14 points.
Actually, Junc, that's your continued distortion of my position. I said That isn't the same what you ascribe to me: "they were going to win the game." Can you see the difference?
The bottom line is we were up 14 late in the game, NE did nothing all 2nd half. We went into prevent and they moved deep into our territory but still needed to score TWO Tds in 4 mins just to get the game to OT. to put this ins a little perspective the Eagles were down just 7 points w/ 5 1/2 mins to play the other day and they got the ball back w/ 3 mins needing one score. As miraculous as that comeback was they were in a better position w/ 4:15 to play than the Pats were against us. Still think the Taylor play was huge?
Since after the sack the Jets took the ball back, and ran out the clock and never gave Brady another play, yes it was a significant play in helping the Jets win. I've never called it huge. That would be you inserting your own word into my argument. http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=300919020&period=4
I acknowledged it was a somewhat big play, I think we win regardless and some folks are making the play to be bigger than it was. That has been the point all along.