Does Sanchez lead the league in passes batted down????

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  1. 624

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    I don't think height is the problem, 6'2 isn't ideal, but it's not short either....and he has a high release point.


    It's the other, correctable factors.
     
  2. GreenMachine

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    Sanchez- 14 batted passes
    Henne-13
    Fitzpatrick-11(in only 11 games)

    Brady-6


    Peyton-6
    Rivers-5
    Brees-9
    Rodgers-4
    Eli-4
    Freeman-4
    Ryan-4
    Flacco-8
    Vick-7
    Bradford-14
    Cutler-11
    Schaub-8

    Seems to be a young QB thing
     
  3. ultrajet

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    Thanks for all of the info regarding this phenomenon cause I couldn't even begin to figure out what Sanchez is doing wrong. I definitely didn't think it was height alone. Tied with Bradford I see, so it definitely seems to be a young QB thing. But again, that's why Schotty's getting paid-- to fix these things but it seems that he is not doing squat about it. Again, wasting downs on batted balls essentially puts us in the unenviable position of having to get a first down on 2 plays, which may work in the CFL but it's not going to be a good thing in the NFL.
     
  4. CatoTheElder

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    That bolded portion and the fact that he tends to stare down his receivers too much is a big part of the problem. He'll move around and escape but he keeps looking back to the same WR. It's not that hard for the DLine to follow his eyes when they are 3 feet from his face.
     
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    I am pretty sure that Woody even though he started did not practice much or at all last week, for most of the week itdid not look like he was going to play at all- which means Hunter did get the reps in practice.

    I really do think he sucks.
     
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    couldn't agree more... talk about a drop off from starter to back-up
     
  7. Zach

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    I think the play clock situation really plays into the hand of defense. The defense simply knows when to start rushing. They can recklessly rush without having to worry about drawing offsides. This is because Sanchez is getting the plays way too late (he usually has 15 seconds when he gets the play from Schotty) and when he is done lining up at the scrimmage, he barely has 7-8 seconds. One useless motion, and the shot clock is down to 2-3 seconds. Does defense have to worry about drawing offside there? I don't think so.

    This is really critical. (I just can't understand why this important fact escapes the minds of the likes of you.) Look how Peyton Manning or Tom Brady conducts at the scrimmage. They are rarely rushed to the delay of the game situation (Ok... Brady drew two against us in game 2... but then he lost too) They know how to use the time as their weapon, and make sure the defense feels uncomfortable making the initial move. In case of Jets, they are busy getting the ball off before the shot clock expires. Which case will be easier for defense to tee off? Especially if the defense knows what play is going to come? I will leave that to you guys.
     
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    We'll see against the Steelers D....nothing said matters its what he proves to us.
     
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    Yes, the play that we rarely call but is very effective when executed should be eliminated. -_-
     
  10. NDmick

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    Predictability has been a constant, but the line used to hold up even with the shitty use of the play clock.

    Its also really easy to tee off when its 3rd and long constantly. Or its 3rd and short and Sanchez is in shotgun.

    This is why Schotty is not an offensive genius that some think he is in the NFL (namely the Jets brass, who love him dearly). I'd love to find out what those "unnamed sources and coaches" would say if asked about him.

    I've really had it with him. I've tried looking at it objectively, but when you don't score TDs in 3 home games with the personnel he has, you don't deserve to coordinate an offense anymore. Go back to QB coaching. I can see why he hasn't been fired yet. But at the end of the season, things really have to be reassessed.

    Schotty is hitting Bob Sutton territory.
     
  11. Zach

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    The thing is, defenses have figured out how to attack the Jets offense. I don't know why it wasn't done earlier this season, or last year. What the defense does is usually that they first come out in a vanilla coverage, with the safeties far back off, and linebackers in usual base-set coverage - then when someone is in motion, the safety cheats up in the box, and the linebackers get into position to shoot the gap, or simply load up. Play clock is usually down to 5 seconds or so with the motion man still in motion, meaning Sanchez cannot physically make any reasonable adjustment by then. (The motion man has to set in for one second) I remember reading about how the defenses have adjusted to Jets offense, rendering it useless.

    So what did Schotty do to remedy this? Absolutely nothing. I still remember Sanchez getting the play by 15 seconds, and lining up the offensive crews, starting the snap count by 7 seconds, even during the last Dolphins game. He's been doing that for all season. If anyone is expecting Sanchez to be successful in THIS circumstances, he is simply delusional.
     
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    Seriously have we ever run a draw on offense? I know we hardly ever run play action either. We aren't keeping the defensive lineman on their toes allowing them to just sit there and wait for Sanchez to pass. Please fire Schottenheimer now.
     

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