Does Sanchez lead the league in passes batted down????

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  1. ultrajet

    ultrajet Active Member

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    We all know about the interceptions, but it can't be overlooked that in almost every game recently Sanchez has had several passes batted down by the opposing defense..This started last year, but it is becoming habitual now. .It may seem minor, but it seems as if it is happening more often and is essentially making the Jets offense get a first down on 2 plays instead of 3.

    Why is this happening so often and why isn't this being addressed? I can't solely blame the offensive line as some of these batted passes are occurring even without much pressure.
     
  2. 85inthehall

    85inthehall Well-Known Member

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    it's happening because they try to throw 2 yard slant passes and the offensive line is holding their guys at the line and they just jump up. The league has the book on the quick slant to the inside receiver. The play needs to be eliminated.
     
  3. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    They are getting into the passing lanes and getting their hands up.

    Drew Brees is a master at moving in the pocket so he can get a clear lane to his WR. Sanchez needs to watch that tape.

    Predictability might have something to do with it. I'm just throwing out ideas here.
     
  4. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Predictability on offense
     
  5. truthbtold

    truthbtold Well-Known Member

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    I don't know ... but apparently Favre's first career completion was a pass batted back to himself. Maybe we can incorporate this into our scheme.
     
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  6. WW85

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    If our O-Line would be controlling the line of scrimage, we wouldn't have all these passes being knocked down.

    Face it...our O-line has sucked the past month.
     
  7. NDmick

    NDmick Revis Christ

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    It really has, and I can't think of why.

    Hunter is atrocious. I've never seen someone get pushed back by a bullrush so often. His kickout off the line made me laugh at one point - it was that bad. I just started laughing at him. I shouldn't because he might get Sanchez killed. He should never be one on one with a top pass rusher - ever.

    If the line doesn't return to dominance, they won't score points and Sanchez will want to be a hero and more turnovers will be created.
     
  8. StreetFighterJet

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    Well he is short, so that's bound to happen. I'm sure one of the scouting reports for defenses say to put your hand up in the air when he tries to throw.

    I do wish we'd have drafted a QB that was of typical height but oh well, this was a risk. He just needs to learn how to use his passing windows like D. Brees, but that type of skill doesn't show up overnight.
     
  9. LeonNYJ

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    Brainless Schottenheimer
     
  10. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I'm just going to vomit out everything I think it could be.

    Timing is a big part of it as is, in my opinion, telegraphing your passes. Eli had this happen to him a lot early in his career but it hasn't happened so much recently. I think that as a young QB you have so much trouble just getting in a rhythm with your offensive weapons that you lose sight of the fact that you need to keep the defensive off-balance.

    Another issue may be his height, he doesn't have "ideal" height for the position. I think that he has a good release point, but can't really change the fact that he isn't all that tall. Some of that is on the OL too.

    I don't see Sanchez using a lot of pump fakes while in the pocket and that could be a part of this as well; I've seen him pump while on the move but haven't really noticed him doing so frequently while in the pocket. Keep in mind that when he's in the pocket it's easy for a lineman to keep an eye on him and their blocker.

    Having said all this, I'm short and not at all fit to play QB.
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

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    That's clearly part of the problem. Another part is Sanchez has been locking onto and staring at his target for too long lately. His height doesn't help, I'm sure opposing d-linemen are being coached to get there hands up. Our o-line should accordingly be coached to "punch" the d-lineman in the ribs every time that happens. Tenderizing ribs over the course of the game adds up.
     
  12. MadBacker Prime

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    More blame to be put on the line. While some throws are on Sanchez it is the job of the lineman to keep them engaged enough to not have that ability.


    I've been shocked at how poor our pass blocking has been. Even with those 3 straight crazy wins, Mark had to be an escape artist. Mark won in spite of his line play, not with their help.
     
  13. jilozzo

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    here ya go.....

    passing lanes are crowded
    sanchez likes to throw from the pocket
    slightly low throwing/release point
    not the ideal QB height but....look at brees...

    every one of these factors will contribute to passes getting knocked down - but we have to remember the opposing D line gets paid and they have arms as long as my leg.

    the jets need to slide and roll him out - its hard for a young QB cause it throws off the timing and progression but its a must.

    jil
     
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  14. Coach K

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    rofl wow schottys playcalling has been pretty shitty as of late but now its his fault Sanchez has a really low release?

    Nacho has been getting passes batted down alot since last year. he needs to bring his release point higher and also have some form of arc on his throws under 15 yards he looks like hes trying to throw through concrete sometimes.

    thats all easier said then done but he has great execution when hes not flustered. problem is hes literally a spaz sometimes as far as maintaing composure.


    hes young it all just needs to click soon. and im sure it will.
     
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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc3RQ1LXi4w[/YOUTUBE]
     
  16. HardHitta

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    He's not the tallest QB but i dont think thats really the problem. On sunday the phins kept collapsing our line and were in position to bat down the passes. Not a big deal.
     
  17. Jets n Boys

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    The defense gave up 10 pts against Dolphins. And its all Schotty's fault cuz they came off of turnovers. The holding calls on Hartsock is also Schotty's fault. He is plain terrible.
     
  18. Coach K

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    rofl wow im moron took you seriously for half a second

    *filler*
     
  19. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    part of the reason our o line has had problems is because of mid game injuries......

    wayne hunter is not as bad as he's shown. it's a huge difference to plug a guy in mid game when he hasn't taken first reps as opposed to a guy who's expected to start and taken all the first team reps throughout the week.

    i think he'll have a better performance this week
     
  20. Acad23

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    I think every reason mentioned so far contributes to the problem, except the height issue. The fact he's checking the ball down to LT across the middle more might add to it.

    The fix? Some play action, roll outs,effective run game, less 3rd & longs... etc.

    The last few games it just seems like Sanchez never ever gets comfortable in the pocket and throws before he has to. Blame the O-line, but I've seen plenty of plays where the pockets been solid and Sanchez starts moving out and hurries his throw. He's playing scared back there.
     

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