Where is the outrage? --Another DUI

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  1. rmagedon

    rmagedon Active Member

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    Here's a better question, why should we care what u have to think/say about what we care about? It can't possibly be that boring over at Finheaven, could it? I heard there's some gems over there up for discussion.
     
  2. guinness77

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    I got no problem with you, you're actually a decent poster here, but have you been on Fin Heaven lately?

    Yes, you have.
     
  3. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the cop just wanted an autograph?
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I wonder what you guys that support driving after drinking would say if you or a family member was hurt or killed b/c of it?
     
  5. Mambo9

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    According to a breathalyzer test, Williams had .065 blood-alcohol level, which is below Florida's 0.08 percent legal limit

    End of thread
     
  6. Mambo9

    Mambo9 Well-Known Member

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    The guy was not breaking the law!!! Are you serious dude?

    PS Didn't know Florida's state law... my bad...

    PPS In Florida they have weird laws...
     
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  7. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    He was still driving unsafe enough to be considered a risk on the road. Maybe he's just a shitty driver but he had a relatively substantial amount of alcohol in his system. I'm not saying he should go to jail or even be charged with DUI but it was still a dickhead move.
     
  8. IATA

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    In Florida, DWI is over the limit. DUI is under the limit. He is guilty of a DUI.

    Take your "end of thread" and stick it up your ass.
     
  9. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    Junc, you do understand that 99% of these statements are a product of the fact that Dungy, Harrison, Fatcessa, etc., all called on Braylon to be suspended when in the past no one said a word about suspending players for DWIs.

    No one is in favor of DWI, or of players not getting punished by the judicial system or the NFL, but I for one am sick of the double standard for the Jets - No one said shit when Ronnie Brown and Kareem M. got DWIs and then all of a sudden Braylon should be treated differently. Why? Because media figures hate the Jets because of Hard Knocks, the talking, etc.



     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    I think there are some in favor of being able to drive impaired or at the very least they have the attitude that it is not a big deal.

    I get the point about no one making a big deal out of other players BUT we are now a high profile team and we have to live that. We were begging for attention and now we get it over everything.
     
  11. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Well when McKenzie got his DWI or DUI weren't the Giants like 10-1 or w/e? They had a great regular season that year and maybe my memory sucks cus I was so wrapped up in the Jets that year but I don't recall anybody crying for McKenzie to be suspended the way they were Edwards.
     
  12. theBidet

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    this point needs to be repeated. not every state makes a distinction between DUI and DWI, those that do, treat both as moving violations worthy of stopping someone immediately.

    on topic...Was he in the wrong, yes. Do i understand the point of this thread, yes. Its not a league matter, but hey the double standard still holds.
     
  13. TheBlairThomasFumble

    TheBlairThomasFumble Active Member

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    I think they are in the small minority.

    High profile or not, when we are talking about fundamental fairness, I don't think "we have to live" with player A getting a pass and then Player B, because he plays for the jets, getting treated like a pariah and a menace to society. I'm not going to sit back and say that's ok because we are in NY.

    The Giants were a big time team - a super bowl caliber team - when McK. got his DWI and we both know that - no one - in NY or elsewhere called on the guy to sit.

    Sorry that isn't ok with me. It's anti-Jets, and not about being a "high profile" team.

     
  14. Mambo9

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    If there's a law that says you can drive if you're under a certain amount of alcohol in your blood then why is it still a crime to do so? Confused -.-"
     
  15. theBidet

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    this country is state to state (i'm not too familiar with your background so apologies if i come off condescending - totally unintentional).. so in one state, the difference is defined, in another its not. those that make the distinction generally separate it in terms of penalty. for example one would be loss of license for a period of time, while the lesser would be an exorbant fine, with points on the license but you still have your license (again, not really the law.. just an example)

    so its like.. here's a range we don't like. in this range its not good... in this range its really really bad. but both are guilty.
     
  16. Mambo9

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    Ooohh ok thanks :)

    Over here it's: under 0.08 it's legal and you don't get a fine or anything, over 0.08 big fine and you have your license suspended.
    At first it sounded to me as it was the same, that's why I didn't understand what the problem was...
     
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  17. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Again, the Giants weren't brining attention upon themselves w/ Hard knocks and all the talk. Our franchise has bascially BEGGED for media coverage and we can't whine about it when they give it to us. All offseason we got a tremendous amount of coverage so when a big story like Braylon breaks you have to expect we'll get more than most teams.
     
  18. TheBlairThomasFumble

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    Sorry I missed this in my post below. Agreed 100% ace.

    There's no getting around it - two high profile teams, two players get DWIs, both are in NY, player 1 gets a pass and player 2 is metaphorically frogmarched to the electric chair.

    Jacobs talked:

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...wboys/stories/090706dnspocowdate.31e8154.html

    Burress talked before the Super Bowl. Shockey always ran his mouth.

    Sorry the Giants never talked card doesn't work either.

     
  19. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    And if they all said that the Jets are a bunch of knuckleheads, the locker room has cancers all over it and Rex promotes this kind of behavior that's fine. But to chastise the team for doing MORE than any other team ever has in this situation is bullshit. I admit, I used to think that a player getting a DUI mid season was an automatic benching but when I found out that no other team has ever benched a player for a DUI why should the Jets go above and beyond what any other team ever has? To set an example?
     
  20. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    The jets could have set the example and other teams could have followed but it wasn't the Jets responsibility to set that example. I think the league should have a rule in place where it triggers an automatic suspension. That would send the message to the players to use a car service and not put themselves and innocent people in jeopardy.
     

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