And has us taking Julio Jones at 29. He just might be the dumbest most retarded football analyst I've ever seen. Holmes will be resigned along with Brad Smith and with the talent available in the DEF front 7 in this draft there is no shot our first pick is WR unless AJ Green drops to the bottom of the first round. I really fucking hate Mcshay.
I could see us taking a receiver if one of our two top wideouts leaves. I really hope Tannenbaum finds a way to bring Edwards and Holmes back, but that's going to be tough. This draft is loaded at receiver. This organization has to get Mark Sanchez weapons.
Do you mean in the first round? I can see us taking a reciever if Holmes or Edwards leaves but not in rd 1 (unless he's obviously the BPA). With Holmes + Cotchery or Edwards + Cotchery all we need is another weapon... not a game changer. PS BTW I'd prefer Edwards + Cotchery but a lot will depend on the money they'll be asking for.
If you can get a talent like Julio Jones, Mike Floyd, Jonathan Baldwin, or Justin Blackmon at the end of the first round, you pull the damn trigger. Many of you would probably want a 3-4 end over a receiver, but look at it this way: the New York Jets are Mark Sanchez's team. We need to build around him. Ryan win with no-names. He takes pride in that. It'd be fucking awesome to see what he could do with an elite pass rusher or a top tier defensive end, but he doesn't need them put a solid defense on the field. If we went after a wideout late, it would have to be a deep threat...someone like USC's Ronald Johnson. PS: I'd prefer Holmes and Edwards.
Yeah... if we get Julio Jones at #29, I'd do numerous athletic feats that would no doubt end up in me tearing a groin muscle. For those of you new to the draft process, follow this handy chart. Bad Value < Need Decent Value = Need Good Value > Need Great Value >>> Need
Haha love the chart! Why do you love Jones so much? Big time talent I agree but pretty inconsistent... and sooo many WRs with big time talent and inconsistencies have failed in this league. I'm not saying he'll be a bust... but he does seem like a high risk-high reward kid. Personally I like Baldwin and Floyd (if he proves he can stay healthy) more. PS The question is also for all the other Jones fans out there. PPS If Edwards goes I'm hoping for Little/Pettis, if Holmes goes I'm looking at Broyles/Szczur/T. Young... If both of them stay I hope we pick up a slot WR project in the later rounds...
Id take Edwards over Holmes if the season ended today. Brad Smith is a QB/RB the WR experiment is over. that being said yes front 7 all day got alot of depth to address. but if JJ was at our laps with the 29th id do it. Julio Jones is fuckin sick. hed look nasty in green and white and be a huge target for sanchez
You can't knock Julio Jones for being inconsistent and then say that you're hoping for Greg Little. ...and I really don't see where you're getting all of this from. Jones has had a very good season this year. Matt Szczur would be a huge project. He'd probably have a rookie year similar to Joe McKnight's.
I have Julio fourth in my rankings right now, so I wouldn't say that I'm really in love with the guy; however, I think a player with value like his that late in the first round is an opportunity that a team should not pass up. He has some outstanding ability, it's just a matter of bringing it all together on a consistent basis, and I'd love to take a chance on it with a late 1st round pick. BTW Floyd has his own consistency issues, and in my mind Jones' are less based on his mental state and more on the offense. Also, I really, really like Greg Little's potential, and I guarantee he'll be a steal for some team in the 4th or so round if workouts don't propel him back up.
That's because I'm not ok with spending a 1st on a project while I'm good with spending a 3rd or 4th on one. Szczur would be a project... plus there's always the option he follows the Baseball route... but I think he can be a very good player. The kid is tough as nails (not exactly like McKnight) and would give 100% from day one.
No fucking way do I want a WR in the first round half of them turn out to be mediocre receivers anyway or busts. Starting at 2007 and back so there is a decent time frame to observe progress.. Also, no WR were taken in the 1st in 2008. 2007 WR taken in first round (by order they were drafted) - Calvin Johnson (top 10 nfl) - Ted Ginn (lol) - Dwayne Bowe (good, not great) - Robert Meachem (good but tough to say with N.O.'s system) - Buster Davis (eh.. nothing special) - Anthony Gonzalez (good but inconsistent/injury prone. Helps that Manning throws to him too) 2006 NFL Draft - Santonio Holmes (only receiver taken in first round.. good to great depending who you ask) 2005 NFL Draft - Troy Williamson (who? taken 7th overall) - Mike Williams (finally starting to play well) - Matt Jones (ok.. nothing special) - Mark Clayton (good, not spectacular) - Roddy White (top 10 nfl) 2004 NFL Draft - Larry Fitzgerald (top 10 nfl) - Roy Williams (streaky, has shown signs of excellence but overall has been of little use) - Reggie Williams (average) - Lee Evans (good, would probably be great on a better team) - Michael Clayton (pretty good) - Michael Jenkins (kinda average) - Rashaun Woods (no idea who he is) It's too hit or miss I think to go WR. Unless a worldbeater like AJ Green falls to us by some crazy scenario, we better draft for our monumentally biggest need - DL/OLB. Seems like one out of every 4 or 5 first-round WR taken turns out to be a real difference maker on offense.
Honestly, I dont really see us going 34 end in round 1. Its a position that can be easily filled through free agency and later in the draft. I think we take the best available NT/LB/S/WR. However I will say if we go NT, its like taking an end because lets say we are lucky enough to get Powe, he will play all over the line anyway. But I cant see us taking a guy like Heyward or other ends in the first round who cant play some NT.
While you are right most of them are iffy at best, this is considered the best recever class of the decade. So these guys are elite talents that should for the most part be pretty good. Sure one of them will likely have their career marred by injury, but that is something that happens. A lot of these guys are about as cream of the crop as far as receiving prospects get.
I agree with you but I feel like we hear that shit in every draft. If the class is so deep and talented we can afford to pick someone up later on in the 4th.
I was going off your hamstring comment . Interesting view about where his consistency issues are coming from... why do you say that? Workouts do wonders for WRs... at this point who knows... but he sure is a guy on my radar... Almost every WR is a project coming into the NFL (no sure things) but I get your point... I'll just have to wait and see. Maybe mine is just a gut feeling and a problem with taking WRs in rd 1...
How many years in a row is this now where McShay or Kipper predicts we choose a WR in the first? 3,4? Jesus Christ ....
The Bama offense is so run based that Jones pretty much has to take advantage of every chance he gets to turn in a big day. That and a lot of his downfield plays seem to be McElroy just throwing it up and hoping JJ makes a play. That's a lot to ask of a kid. With Floyd, he just has mental lapses on the easiest of plays. I forget what game it was at the beginning of the year, but he dropped two very catchable balls that his team needed. There was a reason that Rudolph became the go to guy, he's just a rock.
I'm alright with taking Julio Jones in the 1st. If either the elite 3-4 de's are off the board. or there are quite a few second tier ones left and we can trade up and get a good one in the early second. And Kiper is so much worse and he may have dealings with agents. Also is there any chance someone could post the whole mock draft. Thanks in advance.
