How much did the Jets miss Revis?

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  1. sackexchange

    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    I kept thinking that the way Marshall was playing, even Revis couldn't stop him. I think that Revis would have taken away 2-3 plays at best.

    I think that the real difference would have been that Cromartie would have slowed down Bess/Hartline and Wilson would've been able to play Nickel where he's much more effective.

    I have to say, Marshall is a freakin' BEAST. Easily the #2 WR in the league behind A. Johnson.
     
  2. jets_fan_in_fishtown

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    we missed him a lot. He's that good.

    He's the only guy who could shut down Marshall 1 on 1
     
  3. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Currently I think were missing him a lot, 3 straight games with a 100 yard receiver when last season we rarely did so

    We need Wilson back in nickel package, and Revis Island being in full effect, hopefully within the next 3 weeks
     
  4. nyjunc

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    Revis would have nutralized Marshall if he was healthy w/o a doubt. Marshall still would have made plays but I'm not sure people understand just how great revis is, Cromartie played well last week but a healthy revis is far and away better than Cromartie. The rematch will be a very different game, I think we'll see a much lower scoring game.
     
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    i disagree, Revis is real tough on bump and run, I think Marshall would have had 6 catches for 80 years if Revis was playing, maybe he would of still had 1 TD, also that long pass play, wouldn't have happended and more importantly Henne would of been gun shy in revis's direction.
     
  6. sackexchange

    sackexchange Well-Known Member

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    I think that Revis at his best could probably handle Marshall. Not sure about this early season version who missed all of training camp.

    I do think that the Jets had to play a lot "softer" than the usually do on Defense meaning more zone coverage and less aggressive blitzing. Henne feasted on our Cover 2.
     
  7. Bill Belichdouche

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    It just makes me appreciate everything darrelle did last season even more than I already do. Be back soon Revis!!
     
  8. 17a_tailgater

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    look at this boys next 7 weeks
    @jills - evans parish & steve johnson????
    vikings - harvin berrian & camerillo
    @broncos - gaffney royal & thomas
    bye
    packers - jennings driver & jones
    @lions - johnson burleson & johnson
    @browns - massaquoi cribbs 7 stuckey
     
  9. Jersey Joe 67

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    I still say we rest him next week and get him going again Monday night against grandpa.
     
  10. Section 227. Row 5

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    Revis' absense almost cost us the game, IMO. That's how much we missed Revis last night. Close game made VERY close without Revis. They were torching Wilson so badly at one point I thought they'd never stop picking on him. Henne was getting into a rythm and thankfully, the rest of the DEF stepped up and pitched in.

    Hopefully we beat the Bills handily, get to 3-1 and then get Revis and Calvin Pace back in Week 5. With Holmes starting on offense also, we should be able to fire on all 8 cylinders.
     
  11. bojanglesman

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    I still think we would have looked crappy last night with Revis, just not as crappy. Perhaps I think they would have had a few less 3rd down conversions. They had multiple guys open on a lot of their completions. Its a miracle the Jets didn't give up 40 pts last night. But the Jets came up big at the end when they had to. Either way, its a win, screw it.
     
  12. Oasis

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    Revis makes Cromartie and Wilson look they have no fucking idea what they're doing, IMO
     
  13. xxedge72x

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    Obviously. He's an elite player.

    Wilson's play so far has been less than inspiring but it's good the Jets are able to pull out the win and still get him this learning experience. It will serve him well down the road.

    Cromartie simply was overmatched by Marshall as he's always been. Cromartie isn't in his league.
     
  14. Jets42long

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    I think we missed him for more reasons than simply to shut down Marshall. Obviously he would have played Marshall better than Cro, but I still think Marshall would have had a decent game. 60-75 yrds and maybe a Td.

    But where we really missed him was what he allows the rest of our D to accomplish. If he's on Marshall than Bess us locked up in Alcrotraz and that first TD drive by the phins never happens. Plus, it looked to me like Rex was much less likely to dile up the jailbreak blitz without Revis. I just don't think he trust Cro and Kdubs like he does Revis. Much more pressure= much worse game by Hene.

    I hope he heals up next week and comes back full strength for Favre. I want to see the old man swet with five guys in his face all night.
     
  15. Big Blocker

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    Cro made some plays on Marshall, but Marshall is a great player who had a very good game. Revis would have played him better, and Cro would have been better on someone else. Wilson would have been out there somewhat less, so yeah, Revis being out was not a good thing. Luckily the Jets survived with a win, but that was because of the O.
     
  16. Br4d

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    We had Revis for two shootouts with the Fins last year and lost both of them. Sanchez did pretty well in those games also. We had no Revis this year and won the shootout.

    He's a cornerback. The games that we would win solely because of him we'd win solely because of about 5 other guys first only they didn't hold up their end of the deal and it slid to him. You win maybe 1 game like that every 5 years even with a great CB like Revis.
     
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    We didn't miss Revis, he is terrible. Ummm yeah. Kind of obvious answer here.
     
  18. xxedge72x

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    I think you're severely downplaying the effect Revis has on other offenses. It's not a matter of maybe knocking down a few passes that Cromartie didn't... it's a matter of teams making a decision to take great risk and peril when throwing in Revis' direction.

    That kind of freedom makes life easier on the rest of the defense. Suddenly Cromartie and Wilson have more ideal assignments. The Jets can bubble up and contain the rest of the Dolphins passing game. The Jets have the freedom to send one or two extra blitzers when they want to.

    It takes a dimension away from the opposing offense and swings the ball heavily in favor of the Jets.

    Yesterday of all games was when his presence was really and truly missed.
     
  19. Br4d

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    We lost two games to the Fins last year with Revis covering freaking Ted Ginn. We won last night with Cromartie barely covering Brandon Marshall. If that trifecta of games doesn't clearly illustrate the lack of importance of a WR/CB matchup to the outcome of a game I don't know what does.
     
  20. xxedge72x

    xxedge72x 2018 Gang Green QB Guru Award Winner

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    You make it sound like a very black and white issue... its not. Every game is independent of one another. Every game has different circumstances, different issues, and different reasons why they end the way they do.

    Last night the Jets weakness WAS the passing defense. In fact, that was THE worst performance the Jets defense has had under Rex outside of the AFC Championship game. The Dolphins are no Colts and their passing game does not come close to rivaling the Colts yet we made them look that way. Clearly what was missing is the effect that Revis has on opposing offenses.

    The Jets defense last year was not the most talented of all time and it took a huge blow when Jenkins went out. What allowed the Jets to be the #1 defense is the fact that they were consistently able to make the opposing offenses best wide receiver damn near invisible every game. How are offenses supposed to excel when one of their best weapons simply ceases to be a factor?

    Sure Ginn beat Revis on one play last season... but that play was an anomaly. Look at what Revis did to the rest of the receivers he faced... there were a lot of sunken ships on Revis Island by the end of it.
     

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