are you gonna answer my simple question or not? What makes Braylon Edwards so special? For example, what's the difference between him and Ronnie Brown or Will Allen? I hope it's not because they drink and drive during the offseason. Other than that question, I'm done with this thread. I hate drinking and driving just as much as you, trust me. Your hard on for Edwards is showing, though.
Man, why are people still arguing this? The Jets made the right move, now the law can make whatever move they deem proper, and then the NFL can make whatever move it deems proper.
It has been asked already but who benched a player for a DUI recently? You also brought up Jack Del Rio and I didn't get an answer on that question.
Wrong - A DUI can definately be a felony, depends on what state you are in and what the facts are. It varies a great deal, but a dui can be a felony. Yes, if I was attending a work related function, got wasted and tried to drive my two co-workers home and i was drunk and blew a .16 - YES there would certainly be penalties at work and yes my employer would know. Drunk driving is an epidemic in the NFL. the teams were taking stronger stands against drunk driving 4-5 years ago than they are taking now. Players could get benched for a DUI depending on the team and the specific facts. Lately the NFL isn't doing anything to bench players w/a dui. The Jets had an opportunity to do the right thing and not fold. But Mr. Johnson folded on this. I think its a shame. Unfortunately it looks like there will have to be yet another tragedy for the NFL to start taking this stuff seriously again. :sad:
are you gonna answer my simple question or not? What makes Braylon Edwards so special? For example, what's the difference between him and Ronnie Brown or Will Allen? I hope it's not because they drink and drive during the offseason. Other than that question, I'm done with this thread. I hate drinking and driving just as much as you, trust me. Your hard on for Edwards is showing, though.
Yeah, Del Rio benched a OT w/a dui. I thnk it was about 3 -4 yrs ago when Jack was coaching the Jags. Barnes, thats one that i remember.
Your question is stupid. nobody has said that edwards was special. I certainly never claimed that. So what exactly is it that you want to have an argument about? I think Edwards should have been benched for the entire game at a minimum. I don't really give a hoot about other players in other situations. In this situation, given Edwards extensive history with alcohol related problems, given his history w/the stallworth drunk driving disaster, given the fact that he had been attending a team related function and given the fact that he was transporting other team personnel while he was drunk - all of those factors should have caused Mr. Johnson to do the correct thing and have the player benched.
First of all, saying that Edwards should have been benched IS saying that he's special. If other players don't get benched for a DUI without prior substance abuse offenses, and Edwards does, then he most certainly is receiving special treatment. What is this extensive history with alcohol related problems? And the team-'related' function? It's a player's charity, not a team function. He was benched for a quarter, which was appropriate.
so just drunk driving isn't enough for you? like ronnie brown or will allen. He was benched for 1 quarter. Most teams don't do shit. Because he drank with Stallworth, it's HIS fault he stayed at a hotel than night and Stallworth drove drunk? What he did was incredibly stupid, of course, but this idea the Jets fucked up(!) is incredibly out of whack with the rest of the league. And that's called precedence. Almost no player misses a fucking series, let alone a whole quarter, so be fucking happy Mr. Johnson did something. Because Mr. and Mrs. Lopez did JACKSHIT. If he gets processed and found guilty (which in this country is usually what happens) then Goodell has a decision to make, and whatever decision is made I don't think anybody will be able to agrue with it.
wow, you got me. you're arguing with about 10 different posters about this, yet I'm the unintelligent person. It only took you about 30 minutes to answer what in your mind was a dumb question. Actually, looking back, an hour. Have a good night.
No it isn't. It saying that I think the Owner should have benched the player based on the player's history and the player's criminal behavior. He is decidedly not special at all. First of all other players have been benched. Secondly its ridiculous to compare individual situations. Each person has a history and each incident has its own unique set of factors to be assessed. In this case it is very clear that despite numerous alcohol related incidents, Edwards is still out there drunk driving and endangering not only his life but the lives of other players on the team. There is nothing special about this. The facts call for the owner to bench the player. Thats my opinion. Apparently the owner disagrees with me. Drunk driving is a major problem in the NFL and apparently the owners care more about winning than they do about preventing a tragedy. I don't share that view. Edward has had a history of alcohol related problems going back to Michigan, including the donte stallworth tragedy and including his bar fight on Ohio that he is on probation for. He was attending the team related function as a Jet. he is representing the team when he makes those appearances. he chose to go double fisted drinking and then get behind the wheel of an SUV to drive his teammates around when he was drunk. At a minimum he should have been benched for the entire game.
This may come as a surprise to you, but I am not actually that concerned or surprised by the fact that most fans don't care about Edwards or about the DUI. They just want to beat Miami. I get it. I just don't agree with that mentality. I think it leads to more drunk driving and people getting maimed and killed, which I happen to be opposed to. It may further come as a surprise to you to learn that I wasn't avoiding your question at all. I just didn't understand what your question was. Benching Edwards would have been the right thing for Mr. Johnson to do under these circumstances. Thats my opinion. I have been a Jets fan for 40 years and I want them to win every game. But I am very much opposed to drunk driving and especially concerned about the epidemic of drunk driving in the NFL. I have known people who have been paralyzed and killed by drunk drivers who were not as drunk as Braylo was. I don't think that it should take a tragedy for the NFL owners and teams to start getting serious about this and at the very least bench players when the facts indicate that the incident was more than a relatively minor lapse of judgment.
I would really prefer you were a Jets fan posting too frequently on a MADD board instead of an Anti-DWI enthusiast posting too frequently on a Jets board. Go do that.
Give examples, please. Others have given examples of the last TWENTY TWO DUI arrested players, none of whom were suspended for a down. So, by all means, give examples of players who received a full game suspension from their teams, and prior to conviction. The Donte Stallworth tragedy had NOTHING to do with him, other than the fact that he was drinking with Stallworth that night AND THEN LEFT. It makes it stupid that he would choose to drink and drive, but it sure as hell doesn't weigh on whether to suspend him. As far as the punch, the law and the NFL will make the decision on that fallout. The team did the right thing.
I would really prefer you not pretend that I am looking for advice from someone who uses a urinating rainbow horse for an avatar .
