No punishment for Jets - Ines Sainz incident

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  1. Pluvrr

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    Personally, I don't think any media male or female should be allowed in the locker room.

    I also heard Ines say early on that she felt uncomfortable only because there were "naked men in the locker room" not because of catcalls. I heard her in a later interview say she was uncomfortable because of "everything". So she changed her story a bit.



    Goodell implements training program, but no punishment for Jets in aftermath of Ines Sainz incident »

    By Manish Mehta

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announced today that the league will implement a training program for every team for proper conduct in the workplace in the wake of the Jets incident with TV Azteca reporter Ines Sainz on Sept. 11.

    The Jets were not penalized by the league.

    Owner Woody Johnson will underwrite the training program that will be created in consultation with the Association for Women in Sports Media (AWSM).

    “I believe this is the most constructive approach,” Goodell said. “There is no debate about the longstanding equal access rule of our media policy. The issue for us, like all organizations, is proper conduct in the workplace, whether it is dealing with the media, co-workers, fans, or others. It is our responsibility to provide a professional setting for members of the news media and other business associates that work with our teams and the league. We appreciate Woody Johnson stepping up promptly to properly manage the situation at his team and agreeing to underwrite this new initiative for all clubs.”

    Jets coaches reportedly overthrew footballs in Sainz’s direction during practice before players openly made cat calls to her in the lockerroom. Sainz was in town to interview quarterback Mark Sanchez.

    Johnson's statement: "We've learned from what happened last Saturday, and have reaffirmed our commitment to treat all members of the media with professionalism and respect. The commissioner has developed a constructive approach that emphasizes education and awareness. I believe what emerges will improve the working relationship between all media and the NFL."

    Goodell sent a letter to Johnson, which read, in part: “The conduct of the Jets clearly should have been better last Saturday, but your prompt action in calling Ines Sainz and Mike Tannenbaum’s subsequent discussions with Joanne Gerstner of AWSM have made clear the club’s commitment - and your personal commitment - to ensure a respectful and professional environment for all members of the media.”

    Excerpts from Goodell’s letter (per a press release distributed by the league):

    • A fundamental and longstanding element of our media policies has been that accredited media - male and female - are entitled to equal access to the workplace and to NFL personnel, and there is no question that the practice field and locker room are part of that workplace. Any debate over whether women reporters belong in the locker room was settled long ago, and this incident offers no occasion to reopen that antiquated discussion. But in the NFL, the policy goes beyond simply access. The policy is designed to ensure that all reporters have a professional environment within which to do their work, and to foster an atmosphere of mutual respect between members of the media and those who work in the NFL.

    • Regarding last Saturday’s practice, while there seems little doubt that passes were thrown in Sainz’s direction at last Saturday’s practice, it is also clear that she was never bumped, touched, brushed against, or otherwise subjected to any physical contact by any player or coach. Sainz herself was unequivocal in saying both that no physical contact occurred, and that no player or other Jets staff member made any comment or gesture that could be construed as threatening, demeaning or offensive.

    • As far as the locker room, Sainz explained that her postings on Twitter while in the locker room reflected her general lack of comfort in that setting, and were not related to any specific act, comment or gesture directed to her by any member of the Jets organization. She also advised in her interviews that she had not seen or heard any catcalls, sexually explicit or offensive comments or gestures directed at her, and did not believe she was subjected to any improper conduct. She was able to obtain the interview with Mark Sanchez and was quite satisfied with her conversation with him. She did not believe that the activity in the locker room interfered with her ability to do her job (namely, obtaining an interview with Sanchez), and did not identify any member of the Jets organization who did anything that was in her view improper. That being noted, Sainz did state that the locker room environment “could have been better.”

    • Sainz’s public remarks were consistent with her comments to NFL Security. For example, on September 13, she gave a televised interview on TV Azteca, in which she said, “I want to assure you that at no time did I feel offended, nor at risk, or in any danger. Simply it was a situation that comes from the natural context. I want to say that in my perception at no point did I feel attacked nor did I feel that there were gross things going on around me.” At another point, she said, “It was definitely a joking tone, very amicable. I wasn’t offended.”

    • Other reporters who were in the locker room described the atmosphere as “juvenile, immature, high school,” but “not over the top.” Others agreed that the atmosphere was not hostile, that no obscene or lewd comments or gestures were made and that nobody had physical contact with Sainz, that Sainz did not appear concerned, disturbed or troubled by what was going on around her, and that nobody had difficulty doing his or her job, but also described the atmosphere in the locker room as “unprofessional, uncomfortable, and disappointing.”


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2010/09/goodell-implements-training-pr.html#ixzz0zrVr6fxX
     
  2. Br4d

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    The lockerroom should be off limits for all media. It's a sanctuary and it's silly that people are allowed in to watch other people undress, shower, etc. There should be a half hour period after the game where the lockerroom is closed to all access except for team employees.

    It's actually really scandalous that female reporters are allowed in to the lockerroom except under very strictly controlled circumstances at all. Male media are routinely denied access to women's lockerrooms for reasons of modesty and propriety. There should not be a double standard here and there clearly is.
     
  3. HardHitta

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    I Agree, Give the guys time to shower and get dressed, then let those blood sucking leeches in.
     
  4. Pluvrr

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    yeah no kidding, maybe I should be a reporter on female sports and sue if I can't get in their locker room. :p
     
  5. Royal Tee

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    Carton was rippin the NFL today on how it's a double standard.
    He is now attempting to get a Press Pass for the Liberty games to see if they would let him in to conduct interviews after the game.

    He says It's ridiculous because there are guys waliking around fresh out of the shower, half naked but the media doesn't care.
    Also said that there are guys droppin a deuce meanwhile reporters are 5 ft. away....

    He's annoying but funny.
     
  6. Gunther

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    Fuck the press. They have too much power anyway. We don't need them, so why do we listen to them.
     
  7. fltflo

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    So long story short, "it's much to do about nothing", and Woody has to underwrite the cost of a program that is total waste of money and time. These are men and "most" men are attracted to hot women, this trend started a few years ago and now that we have this program in place, that should nip this trend in the bud.

    I hope the (AWSM) also underwrites classes for young female reporters on how not to dress in a manner that shows of every curve and bump and lumps of the female body.

    Listen, I am all for respecting the ladies no one should be made to feel uncomfortable and female reporters should be treated as professionally as there male counter parts when going about there jobs. Yet, the locker room should be off limits to all reporters until all players, coaches and team personal have showered and dressed. The commish should make this a rule, they could call it the "Sainz rule" I am sure her fellow reporters would applaud her for getting this enacted

    If not then this should be taken into court by the union and have the courts decide why females are allow in male locker rooms while male players naked, Yet, male reporters are barred from female locker rooms when they are walking around naked. Clearly this is not equal access and a clear case of a double standard .
     
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    Saw Bonnie Bernstein on some show last night saying that reporters need to be in the locker room because they're under a deadline. BS. The NFL dictates the deadline by allowing reporters access so soon after practice/games. I agree there is a double-standard in men's and women's professional sports. Reporters should not be allowed in the locker rooms and they should be forced to conduct interviews in a separate, designated area or only at the post game press conferences. Reporting agencies can go jump in a lake if they don't like it.
     
  9. JetDynasty

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    give it a few months for this to blow over and i bet this issue will resurface through tmz or something with breaking news that ines sainz and mark sanchez are dating or she is bearing the child of another jets player haha
     
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    “There is no debate about the longstanding equal access rule of our media policy. The issue for us, like all organizations, is proper conduct in the workplace, whether it is dealing with the media, co-workers, fans, or others."

    dear jackass goodell. i am pretty sure in most workplaces they dont allow people to come in and stick a microphone in your face while you towel off your balls. the fact you allow them in there is improper workplace conduct!

    we dont need an in depth look at bart scotts ballbag. set up rooms adjacent to the locker room and make the players go there. the simple fact that they are forced to make themselves available to the media is a sham in itself.
     
  11. jcluttrell

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    How about the other stupid cunt mind her own damn business next time.:mad:

    Can't Understand Normal Thinking
     
  12. IATA

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    Theres like 5 hot chicks in pro sports anyways, so it's not like we're missing anything by not having locker room access.


    Unless you're into flat chicks with no curves.
     
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    This really pisses me off. NFL Cheerleaders don't face catcalls and a hostile workplace environment when every drunk in the stands is yelling "show your tits!"? The NFL isn't encouraging the sexualization of women by having these cheerleaders shake and dance like strippers with their asses and tits hanging out?

    It would be one thing if this happened in the boardroom of an accounting firm but considering that the NFL and its sponsors (I'm looking at you Beer companies) make money off of girls who dress and look like Inez they can all go fuck their hypocritical selves.
     
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    I saw an interview with her on latin tv yesterday. She said that at no point did she ever feel uncomfortable or offended, and that she doesn't know who originally reported the behavior but it wasn't her. She said that she doesn't understand what the big deal is and that nothing out of the ordinary happened. She was pretty much implying that she gets this all the time, which is no surprise. She's pretty fucking hot.

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    Fuckin retarded, she wanted her name out there and for guys to jerk off to her pictures on the internet
     
  16. PatsFan2003

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    I think the locker rooms should be off limits to all reporters too. Or at least allow players the time and a place to shower and get dressed. Even if they have a robe or something. I never understood why players were denied that basic courtesy.

    As far as players and attractive female reporters, there's a difference between appreciating a young nubile female reporter who got the job primarily because she's a hot babe with a hot body :wink: and harassing her and making the girl uncomfortable. "Ooooh her jeans are tight and she has a great body." "Ooooh I don't know how to handle that". :rolleyes: It's just like any other work place where men and women interact. And yes, women do dress hotly for work too.
     
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    Agreed, outside of Tennis all women's pro sports chicks are beat.
     
  18. NY Jets68

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    "I also heard Ines say early on that she felt uncomfortable only because there were "naked men in the locker room" not because of catcalls."
    Naked men in a locker room. Who woulda thought.

    Simple solution, stay the fug out.
     
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    I'd like to see the stink when a male reporter tries to get into a WNBA lockerroom..
     
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    Tuna.... :)
     

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