The Darrelle Revis No Longer Holding Out Thread

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  1. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    "IF"? That's just what heretics use to cover their tracks!

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  2. NYJFan10

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    I'd love to see the Jets give him the right to negotiate with other teams, then have him find out nobody else is giving him the $16 million either (though Snyder probably would, especially in an uncapped year).
     
  3. Steve032

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    These agents have put all their eggs in Revis' and Jackson's baskets. If they don't both get huge contracts, no one will hire them again. They have to squeeze as much as they can from the Jets.

    I am not going to believe any speculation on either side about this contract until it is signed. A lot of shit is going to be said on both sides in the next few days, media blackout or not. If this deal is going to get done, it's going to happen right before the season starts IMO. Not today, not tomorrow, but very close to the MNF opener.
     
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    Yeah Cole cited no sources in his article. Hes straight taking out of his ass.
     
  5. AbdulSalam

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    Exactly. this is part of the reason why those who are talking about a trade are totally nuts. there is no reason why a) the jets should agree to trade him for anything less than comparable value and b) why any team would agree to trade comparable value to the jets for revis.

    The Jets have no incentive to trade him at all. they are far better off just waiting on revis to end his hold out. eventually revis will either have to end his hold out or give up playing in the NFL. The jets can afford to let him hold out and not get paid as long as he wants to - especially when everybody pretty much knows that the Jets arre offering him a great deal which they arent even required to do since they own his rights for several seasons.

    if the guy is seriously this dumb and selfish - let him sit out all season long and we can do this again next season.
     
  6. skoobz2001

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    Reading this thread on an iPad has literally resulted in me seeing bojanglesman's profile 10 times tonight.

    You'd think Revis would read my post, feel sorry for me, and sign.

    That, and the baby Revis jersey that is in the mail right now.
     
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    Fixed for accuracy.
     
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    If true, this seems like an eleventh-hour desperation threat from Revis, if nothing else.
     
  9. NDmick

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    i'm in fucking stitches.

    :rofl2:
     
  10. bloke911

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    The Jets should sign Cromartie to a 4yr extension today and the see what Revis has to say.
     
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    Thanks for a laugh. Good job. I'm serious, seriously.

    I love stone brewery.
     
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    Arrogant Bastard Ale?
     
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    He'd get his $16 mil a year deal with another team. Or close to it at least. Its like signing a free agent, but with compensation. If Revis was allowed to look for deals, I can assure you there will be teams that will go beyond $12 mil a yr to bring Revis in. Jets would be crazy to let that happen, unless they want him gone. In which case its not going to be easy finding a suiter since our demands have to be two first rounders or atleast one first, a third, and a decent corner.
     
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    I'm in San Diego for work and my co rents a house 20 minutes down the 15 from the brewery which is a brewpup.

    Tonight I had 2 Ruinations and 2 Green Flash Barleywines.

    Ruination Soup and Pretzels.
     
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    My brother practically lives there.
     
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    he should have just asked for a trade. The amount of time that has passed since he has demanded to be the highest paid cb suggests that they don't think he's worth it. Why would you still want to play for a team that doesn't think you're worth it.
     
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    Jets in danger of losing Revis forever
    Jason Cole

    Darrelle Revis' dominance at cornerback enables the Jets to stay aggressive on defense.

    At one point during the latest episode of HBO’s “Hard Knocks,” Jets coach Rex Ryan explained to veteran wide receiver Laveranues Coles(notes) why the team had to cut him. It was over salary reasons, but Ryan said the team hoped to bring back Coles in the second week of the season when his contract won’t be fully guaranteed.

    At one point, Ryan told Coles that the team had to make the move “in case [cornerback Darrelle Revis(notes)] shows up without a new contract.”


    Here’s a little piece of information for Ryan and the rest of the New York Jets: If Revis doesn’t get a new contract soon, New York doesn’t have to worry about the star cornerback showing up. Ever.

    As the clock ticks to the beginning of the NFL season, the relationship between the Jets and Revis is ticking toward an end. A divorce, really. That might sound like hysteria to some but it’s reality.

    You can hear the agitation in Ryan’s voice when he talks about the overall state of his team. During one moment in “Hard Knocks,” Ryan chewed the Jets out for not playing with urgency, a bad sign for any team, particularly for one that hasn’t won a championship in more than four decades.

    Jets fans can pump their chest about allowing only one touchdown in the first three games of preseason, but that means nothing. If the Jets are really going to run Ryan’s high-risk, blitz-heavy defense, they have to have Revis. As gifted as cornerback Antonio Cromartie(notes) is, he’s not tough enough to emulate Revis.

    If the Jets can’t bridge the gap between what they are offering Revis and what he believes they promised him at the end of last season, he’s not showing up, period.

    As in ever again.

    At the end of last season, when the Jets were going to the AFC championship game and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was renaming Manhattan “Revis Island,” the Jets were floating on an attention high. When it all came crashing in the loss to Indianapolis, the Jets couldn’t live with the buzzkill. They openly talked about getting Revis, who has three seasons left on his contract, signed to a lifetime deal. Ryan said Revis was the best defensive player in the league. It was an open declaration of love, the kind of wooing you see in Julia Roberts’ movies.

    And at that point, the Jets were committed. Owner Woody Johnson can say all he wants about how that was then and this is now, but the fact is that his team made what Revis believed to be a promise. That means a lot to a 25-year-old man who plays a game of furious emotion and passion. This isn’t an abstract business deal.

    Revis believes the Jets have toyed with him by making their initial overtures so public. If this had been done privately, Revis would have shown up for training camp even if a new contract hadn’t been agreed upon.


    The problem is that love in the NFL is expressed in dollars and the Jets didn’t think this one through. In fact, when the idea of a long-term contract for Revis (10 years) was broached with this reporter months ago, I took all of about 30 seconds to figure out that the approximate number Revis would be looking for was roughly $160 million.

    And I’m not exactly a contract negotiator.

    What’s strange is that the Jets should have anticipated that. The Jets knew agents Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod well enough to understand that this wasn’t going to be easy if they didn’t take a strong approach. It wasn’t the first time considering Revis held out as a rookie in 2007. It wasn’t when Schwartz and Feinsod were representing former Jets guard Pete Kendall(notes) and tight end Chris Baker.

    Schwartz and Feinsod crafted a brilliant contract for Revis the first time, one so good that no other team has ever done it since. Schwartz and Feinsod know leverage and they have certain principles.

    More important, Revis has principles, too. If you were Revis and had a pretty good idea that your value isn’t going down anytime soon (there’s plenty of proof of that around the NFL) and you no longer had faith in the Jets, would you ever play for them again? Is that the kind of professional, working marriage you’d want to get into?


    His uncle, Sean Gilbert, once sat out an entire year with Washington when he wanted between $4 million and $5 million a year and the Redskins were offering $3.2 million.

    After a year away, Gilbert got $7 million a year from Carolina.

    Gilbert learned that great players get great money even if they miss an entire season. This year alone, No. 1 overall pick Sam Bradford(notes) got $50 million guaranteed even though he was coming off an injury-marred season in which he barely played. Likewise, wide receiver Dez Bryant(notes) and tight end Jermaine Gresham(notes) were both first-round picks this year despite barely playing last season in college.

    There are plenty of other examples that feed this notion.

    Revis isn’t wrong to ask for a deal that eclipses Oakland cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha’s(notes) $15.17 million average. Beyond the fact that Denver cornerback Champ Bailey(notes) isn’t far behind this year with a base salary of $13 million, any 10-year or long-term deal for that type of money means the deal will be eclipsed numerous times in the coming years. It’s the way the NFL works.

    To put it in another perspective, Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning(notes) will soon reset the bar for what the top players in the league are worth. The Colts will be lucky – yes, lucky – to get Manning’s deal done for less than an average of $25 million a year.

    And if the top quarterback in the league is worth $25 million a year, what is the top cornerback or defensive end, left tackle or wide receiver – all guys who drastically impact the quarterback – are going to be worth?

    There’s going to come a point where $16 million a year for Revis is a decent price.

    The Jets can counter that by saying that they’re doing Revis a favor by redoing his contract now, at least one year in advance of free agency. That’s reasonable, but here’s another way of looking at it: If Revis plays out his contract over the next three years, he gets $21 million. The Jets then would be forced to put a franchise tag (assuming the franchise tag still exists) for a minimum of $18 million for 2013 (based on the fact that Revis’ 2012 salary is scheduled to be $15 million.

    That’s $39 million over four years, but then the averages start to really jump, going way north of $20 million a year. From that perspective, $16 million a year looks like a good price.

    But more important than any of that is a simple fact: Either the Jets get this done or they never have Revis again.
     
  20. Mambo9

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    Next year Bailey's contract will be up and Asomugha's contract will prob be up too (unless they give him around 17-18 mill)... If only that Mevi$ asshole would've waited another year before pulling this shit off...
     
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