The Darrelle Revis No Longer Holding Out Thread

JG's J.E.T.S. · Sep 1, 2010

How more obvious could it be that Revis will be signed by Monday (just in time to make it on next week's Hard Knocks)? All the talk about the Revis--Cowlishaw debacle, which was glossed over completely in last week's Hard Knocks, even though it could have easily been mentioned last week (Cowlishaw's tweet was on Sunday Aug.22). The clincher was Tanny referring to the signings of some members of the Jets "Core Four" at the conclusion of the episode, "...you paid Brick, you paid Mangold, you paid Revis"
The use of past tense by Tanny and the obvious placement of this segment at the very end (and not ending up on the cutting room floor) is indicative of my strong educated guess that the framework of a deal is in place (especially considering the relaxed use of the "Revis" word throughout the show and that the "agreement" to not discuss Revis in the media was "overlooked" by the Jets F.O. for the first time since the blackout went into effect 3 weeks ago). Expect a deal imminently.
Rex----Revis is indeed "coming home" very soon and based on Tanny's conspicuous lead-in at the episode's conclusion, we should be seeing a lot of Revis in next week's finale...G-dwilling

........ · Sep 1, 2010

The Darrelle Revis Holdout Thread (12 Days Until MNF)

hazmat said:

I don't think a signing bonus has to fit. Anything in the future that's guaranteed for skill and injury needs to fit under the 2009 cap.
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No, a signing bonus doesn't have to. Revis's agents were reportedly concerned by the absence of future guarantees against both injury and skill. This would be a way to free up more of that money.

ace_o_spades · Sep 1, 2010

JG's J.E.T.S. said: ↑

How more obvious could it be that Revis will be signed by Monday (just in time to make it on next week's Hard Knocks)? All the talk about the Revis--Cowlishaw debacle, which was glossed over completely in last week's Hard Knocks, even though it could have easily been mentioned last week (Cowlishaw's tweet was on Sunday Aug.22). The clincher was Tanny referring to the signings of some members of the Jets "Core Four" at the conclusion of the episode, "...you paid Brick, you paid Mangold, you paid Revis"
The use of past tense by Tanny and the obvious placement of this segment at the very end (and not ending up on the cutting room floor) is indicative of my strong educated guess that the framework of a deal is in place (especially considering the relaxed use of the "Revis" word throughout the show and that the "agreement" to not discuss Revis in the media was "overlooked" by the Jets F.O. for the first time since the blackout went into effect 3 weeks ago). Expect a deal imminently.
Rex----Revis is indeed "coming home" very soon and based on Tanny's conspicuous lead-in at the episode's conclusion, we should be seeing a lot of Revis in next week's finale...G-dwilling
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I think he said "you pay ...." like an if...then kinda thing. You pay those guys and you have cheap backups

Rockefella · Sep 1, 2010

The Darrelle Revis Holdout Thread (12 Days Until MNF)

JG's J.E.T.S. said:

How more obvious could it be that Revis will be signed by Monday (just in time to make it on next week's Hard Knocks)? All the talk about the Revis--Cowlishaw debacle, which was glossed over completely in last week's Hard Knocks, even though it could have easily been mentioned last week (Cowlishaw's tweet was on Sunday Aug.22). The clincher was Tanny referring to the signings of some members of the Jets "Core Four" at the conclusion of the episode, "...you paid Brick, you paid Mangold, you paid Revis"
The use of past tense by Tanny and the obvious placement of this segment at the very end (and not ending up on the cutting room floor) is indicative of my strong educated guess that the framework of a deal is in place (especially considering the relaxed use of the "Revis" word throughout the show and that the "agreement" to not discuss Revis in the media was "overlooked" by the Jets F.O. for the first time since the blackout went into effect 3 weeks ago). Expect a deal imminently.
Rex----Revis is indeed "coming home" very soon and based on Tanny's conspicuous lead-in at the episode's conclusion, we should be seeing a lot of Revis in next week's finale...G-dwilling
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Wishful thinking.. Hope you're right but it's a stretch.

Miamipuck · Sep 1, 2010

JG's J.E.T.S. said: ↑

How more obvious could it be that Revis will be signed by Monday (just in time to make it on next week's Hard Knocks)? All the talk about the Revis--Cowlishaw debacle, which was glossed over completely in last week's Hard Knocks, even though it could have easily been mentioned last week (Cowlishaw's tweet was on Sunday Aug.22). The clincher was Tanny referring to the signings of some members of the Jets "Core Four" at the conclusion of the episode, "...you paid Brick, you paid Mangold, you paid Revis"
The use of past tense by Tanny and the obvious placement of this segment at the very end (and not ending up on the cutting room floor) is indicative of my strong educated guess that the framework of a deal is in place (especially considering the relaxed use of the "Revis" word throughout the show and that the "agreement" to not discuss Revis in the media was "overlooked" by the Jets F.O. for the first time since the blackout went into effect 3 weeks ago). Expect a deal imminently.
Rex----Revis is indeed "coming home" very soon and based on Tanny's conspicuous lead-in at the episode's conclusion, we should be seeing a lot of Revis in next week's finale...G-dwilling
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Goddamnthatisreallydifficultotreadsomeparagraphsandbreakswouldcertainlyhelptldr.

MeanGreene23 · Sep 1, 2010

JG's J.E.T.S. said: ↑

How more obvious could it be that Revis will be signed by Monday (just in time to make it on next week's Hard Knocks)? All the talk about the Revis--Cowlishaw debacle, which was glossed over completely in last week's Hard Knocks, even though it could have easily been mentioned last week (Cowlishaw's tweet was on Sunday Aug.22). The clincher was Tanny referring to the signings of some members of the Jets "Core Four" at the conclusion of the episode, "...you paid Brick, you paid Mangold, you paid Revis"
The use of past tense by Tanny and the obvious placement of this segment at the very end (and not ending up on the cutting room floor) is indicative of my strong educated guess that the framework of a deal is in place (especially considering the relaxed use of the "Revis" word throughout the show and that the "agreement" to not discuss Revis in the media was "overlooked" by the Jets F.O. for the first time since the blackout went into effect 3 weeks ago). Expect a deal imminently.
Rex----Revis is indeed "coming home" very soon and based on Tanny's conspicuous lead-in at the episode's conclusion, we should be seeing a lot of Revis in next week's finale...G-dwilling
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Well I hope your right

milo · Sep 2, 2010

JG's J.E.T.S. said: ↑

How more obvious could it be that Revis will be signed by Monday (just in time to make it on next week's Hard Knocks)? All the talk about the Revis--Cowlishaw debacle, which was glossed over completely in last week's Hard Knocks, even though it could have easily been mentioned last week (Cowlishaw's tweet was on Sunday Aug.22). The clincher was Tanny referring to the signings of some members of the Jets "Core Four" at the conclusion of the episode, "...you paid Brick, you paid Mangold, you paid Revis"
The use of past tense by Tanny and the obvious placement of this segment at the very end (and not ending up on the cutting room floor) is indicative of my strong educated guess that the framework of a deal is in place (especially considering the relaxed use of the "Revis" word throughout the show and that the "agreement" to not discuss Revis in the media was "overlooked" by the Jets F.O. for the first time since the blackout went into effect 3 weeks ago). Expect a deal imminently.
Rex----Revis is indeed "coming home" very soon and based on Tanny's conspicuous lead-in at the episode's conclusion, we should be seeing a lot of Revis in next week's finale...G-dwilling
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OMG Thank you!!! I can't believe how obvious it is now!

When are you people gonna figure out that THIS IS NOT JERSY SHORE? They're not setting it all up for the big finale.

It's a fucking documentary.

You know what that is right? Like those films on the discovery channel where they show your relatives in the wild throwing feces.

MadBacker Prime · Sep 2, 2010

The Darrelle Revis Holdout Thread (12 Days Until MNF)

Didn't Rex throw in there if he takes his original contract? Not that it means anything at all, just asking.

JG's J.E.T.S. · Sep 2, 2010

I DVR'ed the episode and watched that segment back 4 times. Tanny most definitely said "paid". Check it out. Tanny's commentary on the Core Four signings (and prospective Revis signing) shows that he is comfortable to tip his hand now (meaning a meeting of the minds has occurred), and this certainly makes for a possible dramatic lead-in for the HBO finale. I have a strong conviction that I am right on this

ace_o_spades · Sep 2, 2010

MadBacker Prime said: ↑

Didn't Rex throw in there if he takes his original contract? Not that it means anything at all, just asking.
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Maybe move some of that money from 2011 and 2012 to 2010?

MeanGreene23 · Sep 2, 2010

MadBacker Prime said: ↑

Didn't Rex throw in there if he takes his original contract? Not that it means anything at all, just asking.
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I think that might of been earlier in the episode. At the end it sounded like he was including Revis with Mangold and Brick.

Cakes · Sep 2, 2010

milo said: ↑

It's a fucking documentary.

You know what that is right? Like those films on the discovery channel where they show your relatives in the wild throwing feces.
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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k&ob=av2e[/YOUTUBE]

JG's J.E.T.S. · Sep 2, 2010

Tanny definitely said "paid". - DVR'ed the episode and watched that segment back 4 times to make sure.

NDmick · Sep 2, 2010

JG's J.E.T.S. said: ↑

Tanny definitely said "paid". - DVR'ed the episode and watched that segment back 4 times to make sure.
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this isn't a drama series. There is no script. Revis isn't waiting for May sweeps.

milo · Sep 2, 2010

JG's J.E.T.S. said: ↑

I DVR'ed the episode and watched that segment back 4 times. Tanny most definitely said "paid". Check it out. Tanny's commentary on the Core Four signings (and prospective Revis signing) shows that he is comfortable to tip his hand now (meaning a meeting of the minds has occurred), and this certainly makes for a possible dramatic lead-in for the HBO finale. I have a strong conviction that I am right on this
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Look, we all want a deal done. We all want to see this thing over. But if it gets done it's gonna get done becasuse somebody bends and the season's about to start. Not because of a fucking TV show.

Vincent Jackson's still holding out. What are they waiting for? To book Larry King???

Nacho Sanchez · Sep 2, 2010

dont know if this was posted but.....Cimini wrote it for espn

ALIQUIPPA, PA. -- Revis Island is a modest brick ranch at the end of a 100-foot blacktop driveway, protected by trees and barely visible from a busy road. There's a detached, two-car garage, which houses Darrelle Revis' black Mercedes SUV, and a rickety basketball hoop that looks like it's one slam dunk away from the next garbage pick-up.

This is where Revis' grandmother, Aileen Gilbert, lives. This is where Revis was on that fateful day in April 2007, when his name was called by the New York Jets in the first round of the NFL draft. (What a party that was.) Until Tuesday, this is where he sought refuge for part of his preseason holdout, which is 32 days and counting.

It's quiet here, a good place to escape. Revis' island.

Revis spent about a week in Aliquippa, a working-class town fiercely protective of his privacy. You ask acquaintances if they know his whereabouts, and they act like you're IRS, refusing to confirm anything. You want information, but everybody turns into a Belichick. Others admit they've seen Revis around town, but nothing more than a glimpse here, a glimpse there.

"The phantom of Aliquippa," said Mike Zmijanac, who coached Revis at Aliquippa High School.

The phantom vanished Tuesday, according to his grandmother, who refused to say where he was headed. Back to the Jets, perhaps?

"Not that I know of," she told ESPNNewYork.com, smiling at her front door.

Chris McGrath/Getty Images file photo
Has Darrelle Revis left Aliquippa, or is he hiding in plain sight?Within seconds, Gilbert was discussing her grandson's holdout, dispensing sharp opinions about Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum. She's not naïve; she raised an NFL player, Sean Gilbert, who played from 1992 to 2003 and sat out an entire season because of a contract dispute.

This grandma knows the business of the NFL, and it bothers her that Darrelle isn't playing football with the season less than two weeks away.

"Darrelle does what he does because he loves it," she said, sitting at her dining-room table. "For this to be happening to him, it's almost like a slap in the face, because he's not appreciated."

So much for the gag order. Revis' agents and the Jets agreed last month not to discuss the negotiations publicly, but does that include grandparents?

"I know he wants to play, but Darrelle understands contract negotiations," she said, wearing the local school's colors -- an orange Aliquippa High T-shirt. "Some players don't get it, but Darrelle can read a contract. I think he's comfortable with his decision [to hold out] because he knows what he was told by the Jets and he knows what he's worth.

"People are trying to portray him as greedy, but he has outperformed his contract," she continued. "For them to put him in this position is just unreal."

Revis has managed to keep a low profile during the holdout, which has made national headlines. When he's home, Gilbert said, they don't discuss the negotiations. That's why he came home, she said. The oldest of her 15 grandchildren came home for quiet time, and his hometown obliged.

When ESPNNewYork.com showed up Wednesday, looking for Revis, it led to an almost comical chain of events. First stop, Aliquippa High, where football practice was under way. Remember the old Tom Cruise football movie, "All the Right Moves"? That came to mind immediately.

Practice stopped, dead silent, when a staffer yelled across the field to the coaches, "He's looking for Darrelle Revis."

An assistant coach walked over, asking the reporter to leave the premises -- immediately. A minute later, Zmijanac came to the sideline to investigate. He was polite. No, he hadn't seen his former star player, who led Aliquippa to a championship in 2003.

"Obviously, if he came home, he wanted privacy and we respect that," Zmijanac said. "He played here. He's still one of our kids, he's still one of my friends. He's a grown man and it's a business."

End of conversation. Walking away, Zmijanac said to the reporter, "If you see him, tell him I said hey."

On to Hopewell High, on the other side of Aliquippa, where Revis was seen recently running sprints on the track at Tony Dorsett Stadium.

No Revis.

Someone there suggested checking the DiNardo Fitness Center, about a mile from school. A woman behind the juice bar reported no Revis sightings, but a man in the gym said Revis works out with a private trainer in a basement gym, located beneath the Get Pampered Salon.

You can't make this stuff up.

On to the salon, a non-descript brick building with no customers. A kind woman behind the counter said the trainer is named Rod Forbes, but he wasn't around. She scribbled his number on the back of a spare business card for Dirty Dog Pet Grooming.

Minutes later, Forbes showed up. He played football in high school, and it showed. He was built like a safety, save for the flecks of gray in his mustache. "I can't answer anything without Darrelle being present," he said.

"Do you train Darrelle?"

"I can't answer that," Forbes said. "I don't want to say anything that might impact his situation."

He took a phone number, promising to pass it along to Revis. He disappeared behind a brown door with a "Notary" sign on it.

Revis didn't call -- no surprise -- but there was a call from someone suggesting that Revis could be hiding out at his grandmother's house. Three miles later, down Brodhead Road, Aileen Gilbert answered the door.

She beamed with pride as she talked about her grandson, yet she seemed frustrated by his holdout. How long will it last? Will Revis copy his uncle and sit out the season? She admitted Sean is a strong influence on Darrelle -- "a given," she said.

"If he does," Gilbert said of sitting out the season, "it won't be because of Sean. It'll be because the Jets don't give him a decent contract."

A cell phone rang. It was her daughter, Darrelle's mother, who heard that a reporter from New York was there, asking questions. Word travels fast in Aliquippa.

Gilbert ended the interview, politely.

Exit, Revis Island.
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ace_o_spades · Sep 2, 2010

It's always good when family members get involved...

JCotchrocket · Sep 2, 2010

milo said: ↑

OMG Thank you!!! I can't believe how obvious it is now!

When are you people gonna figure out that THIS IS NOT JERSY SHORE? They're not setting it all up for the big finale.

It's a fucking documentary.

You know what that is right? Like those films on the discovery channel where they show your relatives in the wild throwing feces.
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Too Soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JCotchrocket · Sep 2, 2010

Nacho Sanchez said: ↑

dont know if this was posted but.....Cimini wrote it for espn

ALIQUIPPA, PA. -- Revis Island is a modest brick ranch at the end of a 100-foot blacktop driveway, protected by trees and barely visible from a busy road. There's a detached, two-car garage, which houses Darrelle Revis' black Mercedes SUV, and a rickety basketball hoop that looks like it's one slam dunk away from the next garbage pick-up.

This is where Revis' grandmother, Aileen Gilbert, lives. This is where Revis was on that fateful day in April 2007, when his name was called by the New York Jets in the first round of the NFL draft. (What a party that was.) Until Tuesday, this is where he sought refuge for part of his preseason holdout, which is 32 days and counting.

It's quiet here, a good place to escape. Revis' island.

Revis spent about a week in Aliquippa, a working-class town fiercely protective of his privacy. You ask acquaintances if they know his whereabouts, and they act like you're IRS, refusing to confirm anything. You want information, but everybody turns into a Belichick. Others admit they've seen Revis around town, but nothing more than a glimpse here, a glimpse there.

"The phantom of Aliquippa," said Mike Zmijanac, who coached Revis at Aliquippa High School.

The phantom vanished Tuesday, according to his grandmother, who refused to say where he was headed. Back to the Jets, perhaps?

"Not that I know of," she told ESPNNewYork.com, smiling at her front door.

Chris McGrath/Getty Images file photo
Has Darrelle Revis left Aliquippa, or is he hiding in plain sight?Within seconds, Gilbert was discussing her grandson's holdout, dispensing sharp opinions about Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum. She's not naïve; she raised an NFL player, Sean Gilbert, who played from 1992 to 2003 and sat out an entire season because of a contract dispute.

This grandma knows the business of the NFL, and it bothers her that Darrelle isn't playing football with the season less than two weeks away.

"Darrelle does what he does because he loves it," she said, sitting at her dining-room table. "For this to be happening to him, it's almost like a slap in the face, because he's not appreciated."

So much for the gag order. Revis' agents and the Jets agreed last month not to discuss the negotiations publicly, but does that include grandparents?

"I know he wants to play, but Darrelle understands contract negotiations," she said, wearing the local school's colors -- an orange Aliquippa High T-shirt. "Some players don't get it, but Darrelle can read a contract. I think he's comfortable with his decision [to hold out] because he knows what he was told by the Jets and he knows what he's worth.

"People are trying to portray him as greedy, but he has outperformed his contract," she continued. "For them to put him in this position is just unreal."

Revis has managed to keep a low profile during the holdout, which has made national headlines. When he's home, Gilbert said, they don't discuss the negotiations. That's why he came home, she said. The oldest of her 15 grandchildren came home for quiet time, and his hometown obliged.

When ESPNNewYork.com showed up Wednesday, looking for Revis, it led to an almost comical chain of events. First stop, Aliquippa High, where football practice was under way. Remember the old Tom Cruise football movie, "All the Right Moves"? That came to mind immediately.

Practice stopped, dead silent, when a staffer yelled across the field to the coaches, "He's looking for Darrelle Revis."

An assistant coach walked over, asking the reporter to leave the premises -- immediately. A minute later, Zmijanac came to the sideline to investigate. He was polite. No, he hadn't seen his former star player, who led Aliquippa to a championship in 2003.

"Obviously, if he came home, he wanted privacy and we respect that," Zmijanac said. "He played here. He's still one of our kids, he's still one of my friends. He's a grown man and it's a business."

End of conversation. Walking away, Zmijanac said to the reporter, "If you see him, tell him I said hey."

On to Hopewell High, on the other side of Aliquippa, where Revis was seen recently running sprints on the track at Tony Dorsett Stadium.

No Revis.

Someone there suggested checking the DiNardo Fitness Center, about a mile from school. A woman behind the juice bar reported no Revis sightings, but a man in the gym said Revis works out with a private trainer in a basement gym, located beneath the Get Pampered Salon.

You can't make this stuff up.

On to the salon, a non-descript brick building with no customers. A kind woman behind the counter said the trainer is named Rod Forbes, but he wasn't around. She scribbled his number on the back of a spare business card for Dirty Dog Pet Grooming.

Minutes later, Forbes showed up. He played football in high school, and it showed. He was built like a safety, save for the flecks of gray in his mustache. "I can't answer anything without Darrelle being present," he said.

"Do you train Darrelle?"

"I can't answer that," Forbes said. "I don't want to say anything that might impact his situation."

He took a phone number, promising to pass it along to Revis. He disappeared behind a brown door with a "Notary" sign on it.

Revis didn't call -- no surprise -- but there was a call from someone suggesting that Revis could be hiding out at his grandmother's house. Three miles later, down Brodhead Road, Aileen Gilbert answered the door.

She beamed with pride as she talked about her grandson, yet she seemed frustrated by his holdout. How long will it last? Will Revis copy his uncle and sit out the season? She admitted Sean is a strong influence on Darrelle -- "a given," she said.

"If he does," Gilbert said of sitting out the season, "it won't be because of Sean. It'll be because the Jets don't give him a decent contract."

A cell phone rang. It was her daughter, Darrelle's mother, who heard that a reporter from New York was there, asking questions. Word travels fast in Aliquippa.

Gilbert ended the interview, politely.

Exit, Revis Island.
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This is cute.

I call this article "The Day I Tried To Be a Reporter But Failed Miserably," by Rich Cimini.

Gotta love sports journalism. It's the only field of journalism where failing to get a story is a story.

rohirrim665 · Sep 2, 2010

Is anyone else annoyed at the fact that Revis will get cheered if he shows up monday night against the ravens? His ass deserves one good boo if you ask me. Cheer for Mangold for being a real man. (and for fucks sake do not cheer jason taylor)

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