I don't think this Jets defense can be an all-time great even with Revis. There's no intrinsic pass rush and no truly dominant player in the center behind Jenkins. Those are both disqualifiers for this to be like the '85 Bears (Richard Dent, Mike Singletary), 2000 Ravens (Ray Lewis, Rod Woodson) or 2002 Buccaneers (Warren Sapp, Simeon Rice, Derrick Brooks, John Lynch). This can be a great defense and maybe even a bit improved over last year with some luck, however it does not have the up-the-middle strength or the pass rush to be a historic defense, just like it did not last year.
I'm in agreement with this line of thought! We had the top D last year...and what did that get us. Beat in the AFCC. There needs to be some balance. I would gladly give up a few spots on the D ranking to move up 5 - 10 slots on "O". If we can get that balance then we go farther IMO. And...to be quite honest, I do not believe that there would be that much of a drop off in the defense if the offense is on the field more...and scoring points. And that does first and foremost start with Hot Dog boy. Grind it out with some well timed passing and there you have it. I disagree with one point though. Sanchez does not need to toss for a gazillion yards...what he needs to do is cut the interceptions though. We win at least 2 of those games last year if he doesn't throw the multiple picks. End o' Story.
Sooo.. All-Pro nose tackle, backed up by All-Pro middle linebacker is not strength up the middle? Then 3 first round picks, including the best in the business covering the receivers? That's something none of those other great defenses had. I think with Revis, with a healthy Pace, and rejuvenated Jason Taylor this defense could be out of control good. Unfortunately, for right now, it looks like we have none of the 3.
I envisioned the defense as being different than any of those, but mostly by design as the "new NFL" is so heavily weighted towards the passing attack. Rex gets pressure with speed and overloads, if he can fill gaps with speed and trust his #1, #2, and #3 DB's to cover their men for 3 seconds I think he could wreak havoc on modern day passing attacks. The combination of the upgrades at CB #2, CB #3 and Jenkins back in the middle seemed lethal to me in Rexes mad scientist control.
Holy shit, Willie, I'm gonna reach through the computer and slap this out of you. I can handle other people making silly assumptions about Revis when we haven't heard a single word out of his mouth. I just thought you were better than that.
Not that I would compare Harris to some of the guys you mention but I would consider him a dominant player. And I agree about the rusher but you slot revis in our secondary and if Wilson comes along we could cover guys all day long and rex could have a field day creating pressure. Look what he did with one guy who can cover last year imagine he had three to work with.
You honestly believe he's not going to be rooting against the Jets if he holds out into the season? What's his entire purpose of holding out? To get paid. How does he get paid? If the Jets lose. Personally I'm not sure that would even help him get paid, but that's his only card. We all know the Aso deal is gone next season, he has to get that big check this year and the only way he gets it is if the Jets start out losing. If he's not rooting for the Jets to lose in that situation, that exactly WTF is he even doing? Just sitting back hoping Tanny has a change of heart?
We run an entirely different defense than those teams in an entirely different NFL offensively. BTW, the numbers for the 2002 Buccaneers are almost identical to the numbers for the 2009 Jets, save the 2.5 PPG difference in favor of the Bucs.
Like I told MBGunt, I root for the laundry. If you want to head over to Casa de Revi$ and root for the Ravens with King Revi$ for Monday night football, be my guest.
No, you're right. He clearly wants all of his friends to fail. Now you're just being fucking ridiculous. Go get some sleep.
He doesn't care about his friends more than he cares about himself and his ransom. If he did he'd be back already. It's not about wanting his friends to fail, it's about him wanting to collect his ransom. I guarantee you he'll be rooting for the Jets to lose, or for one of his "friends" to roll an ankle weeks 1-2 if he holds out into the season.
No offense but the soul reason why we lost the AFC Championship was because of our secondary. Our front line was pretty solid imo. We had 2 goal line stands I believe. But then our secondary got completely burnt up. Thats why we got Wilson and Cromartie. I still believe we can win a Championship with defensive team.
No, I'm being realistic. If you want to root for the player over the team that's your prerogative. Maybe you can follow him to whatever team he ends up on.
The only way the Jets cave is IF they lose 2 or 3 out of the first 4 games and it is readily apparent it was the defense - especially the pass defense's fault. There is no point in bringing Revis back if they are 1-5 or 2-4 by game 6. At that point, just let the bum hold out the rest of the year, as the season is essentially down the drain as the Jets have no margin for error the rest of the way. If this isn't the case, then Revis has no reason to hold out come the first game of the regular season. If he holds out come week 1, essentially he is saying to the organization that you need me to win and F' you, I hope you lose to prove me right. That is the WHOLE POINT OF HOLDING OUT!!! IF Revis was truly a team player, he would have shown up at camp like Mangold, Brick and Harris and negotiated his contract throughout the pre-season. Instead, Revis is what he is and everyone must accept that. He held out for his rookie contract. He held out now. IF the Jets pay him, he will hold out again in a few years. Tigers don't change their stripes and to expect him change his tune after getting a new contract? That is pretty naive if you ask me. There are 80 guys at camp busting their butts trying to make the team and prepare for the regular season. This guy is at home pouting with Uncle Sean because he has 3 years on a contract, that HE HELD OUT FOR AND SIGNED as a rookie, that would have paid him $21 million. The only player is going to push the Jets over the hump is Mark Sanchez. That is why QBs, not CBs, get paid the big bucks.
Who is rooting for the player over the team? That's an absolutely ridiculous claim with no merit whatsoever.
If Revis is not in uniform week 1. Anyone who thinks he will be rooting for the Jets is just being naive. I wouldn't go as far as to say he's rooting for his teammates to get hurt but lets be realistic here. What does Revis want if he's watching on the couch this season? Does he want he Jets to have a historic run to the super bowl smooth sailing without him or does he want them to struggle and prove he is worth something?
