My guess is that Cowlishaw is pissed off and feeling like a patsy at this point. The question is whether he feels that his source was bad, and therefore his fault and he's pissed at himself, or whether he feels he got played by somebody with an interest in the deal. If he just had a bad source then end of story. If he feels like he got played then I suspect we'll see some very interesting stuff surface over the next week or two.
Talk about nonsense. This post is filled with it. My point about the national debt etc was to indicate how Revis is rejecting an incredibly large amount of money - $120 million - over principle and people are making these ridiculous statements like "he has to take care of his family" and "he has to make his money now." If the Jets are truly a Super Bown contender then the Revis hold out is truly going to derail their chances. It hurts the team on multiple layers. And to what end? We all care about the team or we wouldn't be here on this board. There are different opinions or this thread wouldn't have close to 10,000 posts. But if you can't see how bad this whole episode has been for the Jets, I don't understand that. And maybe you are willing to forgive the minute the man walks back into the locker room (if he ever does - I doubt he will ever wear the uniform again), but I along with many fans are not so forgiving. The good feelings generated by the late season run - the positive energy generated by this team and prospects for a great camp filled with anticipation for the season have been taken away and dominated by this story about ONE player. I, for one, feel cheated. I have been a fan for 45 years and this offseason was like no other and now??????? As for not booing a member of the team - do you go to games? Are you trying to tell me Jets players never get boooed or heckled by Jets fans? I've been going for 30 years and I hear it every game. Every QB gets booed. Sanchez was boooed on Friday night. Pennington was treated horribly by this fan base for years and all he did was get injured, put forth his best effort, and represent the team well of the field. He was all about the laundry, but because he had a weak arm, half the fan base hated him. I saw Namath get booed. Revis has hurt the team for purely selfish reasons and is in the midst of one of the all-time hold outs. When people talk about Revis and Gilbert in the same sentence, you have to realize how bad this has become. Even when he returns to the team, he will not be in football shape and will not be helping the team for weeks and weeks. As for your analysis of the contract , well it is both naive and completely contradicts the opinions you take in this thread. You can't seriously be saying that $12 million a season is a fair price and expect this to end. $12 million a season has been on the table for months. Revis made it clear in March that he wanted 50 cents more than Asamugha and that where he has remained. How can you take his side when he is that selfish, that petty, that egotistical, and that unreasonable. And if you can't see how overpaying for Revis will negatively impact the Jets abililty to sign others when the cap is back, I can't help you. In fact, after reading your post, I can't tell what your position is. You are pissed at Revis, but you won't boo him when he comes back to "help the team." You don't boo anybody wearing a Jet uniform. Somehow you think Revis will come back without the Jets breaking the bank. Huh??? :breakdance:
I haven't seen those comments in ages. You're using hyperbole to counter a straw man, and both attempts reek of failure and inanity. I don't doubt that you care about the team, nor that you have an emotional attachment. However, said emotional attachment is causing an awful lot of people to respond with the emotional maturity and propriety of infants. As far as claiming that I can't see how this hurts the team, it's completely ignorant of my previous posts. I mean, you even quoted this post: and then respond by insinuating that I can't see this has been bad for the Jets? Seriously? And you feel cheated. By what? By the fact that a contract negotiation went awry? Until he misses real game time, the reaction is completely over the top. Everyone is pissed, but to plan to never support the guy again because he missed time in the preseason and is asking for an unfair amount of money isn't just unforgiving, it's lunacy. All I care about is that this team is in the best position possible to win games. Revis puts us in that position. Will I be upset if his contract makes it difficult to sign other players? Sure. We won't know that, however, until a new CBA is in place, and I don't think Tanny puts the $12 million offer on the table if he thinks it sinks the team. I'm willing to set aside the playground mentality that "if everyone does it, it must be right". Sanchez was booed because he played poorly. Chad was booed because of perceived flaws in his game, most notably arm strength. They were booed for on field performance. You're talking about people booing for the way players play. If Revis doesn't play well, boo away. Go for it. Booing him for financial matters? That's just laughable. I'm not doubting that he has hurt the team, although I don't think any of us can quantify how much. The team could probably do a better job of that. As far as the game shape, I spoke to a former NFL CB about that one. He said Revis could help from day one if he's been working out properly. I'm sure you know better, right? Or do you have some sort of access to Revis that tells you he's been sitting on his couch eating pizza and will take 'weeks and weeks' to be ready to help this team? Again with the straw man! Can't you argue based on stated points instead of crafted and twisted arguments? I'm not taking his side. He's flat out wrong in this negotiation, which I've stated over and over again. No matter how badly you want me to have a position you can more easily attack, I've been firm on that point. He's wrong to continue to hold out for the higher contract. And, even though I've voiced concerns that caving into his $16 million number would hurt future negotiations since day one, you try to put words in my mouth again. You fail on so many levels. No wonder people told me not to bother trying to debate with you. I gave you more credit than they did, but you can't seem to discuss things honestly. It's a good thing you're not a professional athlete; you'd have to hate yourself for your dishonesty. I can absolutely state that I think $12 million is a fair market price. When have I ever deviated from that? I've said that I don't think any CB should be paid more than $10 million, but the market says otherwise. I also expect this to end soon, and I've laid out those reasons as well. The radio silence for Revis vs VJax makes me think that F&S realize the former is in an untenable position. They're minimizing access to him so that they can try to squeeze every penny out of Tanny they can while minimizing the blowback and hits to their perceived 'leverage'. VJax is in a position in which it makes some sense to hold out, so he's been pushed into the public eye. Given that they seem to recognize that their client is in such an untenable position, I don't think they're stupid enough to allow him to hold out all season. They realize the Aso contract likely gets dissolved next season. They realize there is a potential lockout that could keep Revis out of football for two seasons. They realize that it would likely cost Revis his future with the team. They may be vindictive when it comes to Tanny, but I don't think they're stupid. Holding out for the season makes NO sense for Revis. In fact, it makes a lot less sense for Revis to hold out for the full season than it makes for the Jets to allow him to hold out. F&S have to realize this, and as such, they'll take one of two paths: 1) Set a deadline before the season: this would likely be next Monday or Tuesday to give Revis a chance to practice with the team and be prepared for the opener against Baltimore. 2) Set a deadline within the season: They gamble on the Jets losing and caving within the first 4 weeks. It's possible given the difficulty of our early schedule. Why do I feel it'll be option 1 vs option 2? The visibility factor. As soon as the season starts, Revis's claims that he 'wants to be a Jet for life' go from believed by some to believed by none. He likely loses endorsements at that point, and the greater NFL community, which has remained entirely neutral on the situation because they're emotionally uninvolved, starts to question him as well. He directly hurts his teammates at that point, costing them games rather than simply practice. As I've been told, guys in the locker room may feel he should be back, but they won't turn on him until he misses game time. Again, I don't think F&S are stupid enough for that, but I could be wrong. That sums it up, although I never said I wouldn't boo someone wearing a Jets uniform. I'll boo a player if his play deserves it. Then again, I like to do things that make sense.
That Geiger Tweet/Twat/Twit whatever the fuck you call it only means that he is going to meet Revis. In reality it means fuck all...... Fuck that Turtle pos.
You have made some of the dumbest arguments ever in this thread. There are people in this country that get by on less than ten thousand a year. Does that mean anybody who fights for more than ten thousand a year is a spoiled brat? Basically you're saying that anyone that's making more than a certain amount of money shouldn't try and make anymore than that and has nothing to complain about. I grew up in the projects of New Orleans. Barely had clothes or shoes. My mom didn't even have a car so I always had to catch the bus. I remember seeing middle class white people who lived in suburbia and thinking why do they need more than one car? Why do they need a big house? Why does their child need a car at sixteen? Why do they have all these things and still complain about taxes? Why do they complain about money when they already have all these things? It's simple, they were trying to provide the best life possible for their kids. Just because someone else gets by on a certain amount of money it doesn't mean you have to. How are you going to tell this man what standard of living he should provide for his family? The simple fact is, the more money he makes, the more things he can do for his family. You sound like a socialist. "Why does he need that much money?" Lol you're jealous because someone is making more money than you. He thinks he's worth it, so he wants to get paid like it. End of story.
Hasn't Revis been in Pittsburgh though? Wasn't Geiger also in Pittsburgh? Ugh. I know way too much about this.
yes, but he hasnt even mentioned revis really. he now has been. anything that seems positive/something we can spin to be positive...is good for me at this point.
