The 1st Hard Knocks is just a few days away & I am sure the program will be dominated by the contract disagreements of the NYJs & there players which I am sure when Woody signed on for the show he never thought that the money issue would be story 1 on the show. In Revises case Aso contract is the benchmark for his position & every day that goes by with no agreement makes the NYJ mangement look sillier & sillier IMHO
No it isn't, it's the benchmark for players at his position and of his quality playing in shit teams. Simple maths says that you can't pay a full team of superstars top whack; if you're going to get the biggest dollar out there then you've got to play for a team that doesn't have other players worthy of that money. If you want genuine success then you're going to have to compromise on the compensation.
yes, because I'll be pissed off we lost Mangold, not that we won the Super Bowl. winning the Super Bowl doesn't mean I want the team to lose Mangold or will be less upset that we do-- the two are independent from one another.
Absolutely not, once that contract is over all will be set back to the figures Champ and Asante make. Maybe slightly more but not on a 16 million scale. You think our organization is dumb enough to pay a corner 14-16 mil / year for the next what 5-7 years? Absolutely not, I would never pay an elite corner that much money, not with the other pressing needs such as Mangold, Harris, and Cro/Holmes/Braylon If he doesn't show up tomorrow, we'll know for sure he won't suit up this season, so why have his ass on the team? I'm trading him to the either the Lions, Rams, or some crappy team out of the conference for some #1 picks and some prospects, let him get his cash there. Revis is the best defensive DB in the land we know that but he's not worth the money and while he has an impact on the field we only won 9 games last season, it's not like he has that Peyton Manning effect where your team is pretty much guaranteed 10+ wins and a playoff berth. With extra picks / potential rookie salary cap / new CBA we could easily get a new corner (Patrick Paterson?) and other picks to rebuild our defense for the long haul This is our year absolutely, but it won't be the end of the Jets run if we don't win it, I want us not only to win the SB, but to be a dynasty to have players that will buy into the system not someone like Revis who obviously the greed got the best of him in this situation, fuck that the man has made so much cash as it is. I want him here but not for that price, did he reject that "Jet For Life" 100 Million dollar contract? I wonder what the guaranteed money was for that, regardless that's a shit ton of money
I definitely agree that the Jets probably didn't want Revis absence to be one of the highlights of Hard Knocks... However I don't think it reflects poorly on the FO that Revis still isn't signed. At least from the information that is public knowledge Revis is being extremely stingy with his demands... that with three years left on his deal. He realizes that he has the perfect storm of having had a GREAT season and a head coach who recognized it as such publicly... he sees this as a potentially once in a lifetime opportunity, especially after what happened to Leon. Tannenbaum's reputation is as a cap master first and foremost. I doubt Woody's involvement in this situation extends beyond the PR side of things. If there's any GM who time and time again has proven he can work contracts masterfully its him. A majority of Tannenaum's decisions as a GM have been excellent... I think Tannenbaum knows that this is going to be a game of hardball and while it might look bad that Revis isn't signed now, it'll look a lot worse if the Jets simply cave to his demands. At the end of the day I think Revis will get a contract that works for both sides - giving Revis the kind of money he wants while protecting the Jets from various situations where Revis tries to leverage against the Jets again... something they did with his rookie contract which ended up being a major blessing. With that said, I think the Jets are taking Revis seriously enough right now that they feel putting Mangold and Harris on the backburner won't burn them in the end.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he doesn't show up tomorrow the guaranteed portion of his contract becomes non-guaranteed correct? And we buy that back. So doesn't that give him more of an incentive or reason to not come to TC? He needs to be in TC tomorrow, if he loses all that money tomorrow then what's the point of going? That money is gone he'll never see it again, especially if there's no new offer or an offer being accepted for better part. BTW Post 666 muahahaha
You're wrong. The ability to void the contract is already gone. Tomorrow is about losing a year of accrued service toward being an UFA. Read the article WSW posted in the Revis thread. It covers the real downside to Revis' approach. He is in the process of reducing his income by upwards of $5M over the next few years if he holds to this path and does not reach a new deal.
Ah fuck well I was wrong I apologize, I've been lost in the midst of this whole Revis crap, honestly I'm sick of it and have been since he started that outburst in the media room during OTAs I've been trying to stay away from that crazy thread which is the Revis Holdout Thread, I guess I'll have to rear my ugly head in there once again Regardless tomorrow is a very important day, we should see where he stands in the whole thing
Yep sorry even Greeny the NYJ ESPN fan agreed on his show today that Aso contract has become the benchmark for the CB position
Yeah because everyone is going to listen to him? We should all seek his advice on everything That contract is absurd. Regardless of who says it, especially for a corner
And it's not Aso's yearly salary that's holding Revis up, it's the amount of GUARANTEED money Aso received. Revis wants over $30 million in guaranteed money.
Hope U R right but I doubt that common sense will prevail here & unless the NYJs suck it up & grant Revis a Aso type contract the merry go round will just go round & round with both sides waiting on the sideline for the other side to jump on board. I told my son maybe the best thing to do is move him to a NFC team (if possible) & collect a couple of #1s for him if the NYJs do not want to pony up the big $$$$$$$$$$ for him
BUT that not the point. The point is it is in EFFECT which makes it the benchmark for his position. That is the way the NFL works
no it doesn't. an anomaly is never regarded as a benchmark in any scenario, and the general consensus amongst, well, everyone but you, is that the Aso contract is an anomaly.
Everyone except you thinks that the Aso contract is the benchmark for his position, meanwhile I'm sure everyone in the league scratched their heads when that offer got accepted It's not the benchmark, look up Champ's contract, THAT IS THE TRUE benchmark
