Alio's Kick Ass Program

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  1. BIG COUNTRY

    BIG COUNTRY Well-Known Member

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    I should reword it by back hurting I meant the muscles were worked and you could feel it. The back felt fine it was just the muscles there that felt a good workout. I dont lift the bins unless I can stand straight in an upright position while i do it.
     
  2. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    You ain't kidding last week when I hit 365, I caused a little thingy in the shoulder. Had to switch workouts and hit the chiropractor....but.....Just 30 minutes ago.......



    405 from the farkin floor!

    A lifetime goal achieved.

    Now it's on to working up to the 315 bench (previous best 275 x 3)
     
  3. Jake

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    I want to do more squats but I'm so fucking sore after each session. I'm talking sore for like an entire week to the point where it hurts to go up and down stairs or even stand up! I stretch before and after, fuck with protein after and the whole nine.... It's your typical Delayed On-set Muscle Soreness (DOMS). Anybody have any tricks for dealing with DOMS? I've been reading on the net and every bit of info I read is contradicted by another........ I can't work when my legs are this sore but I obviously recognize the importance of squats to any training regimen.
     
  4. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    Ummm, you want advice? Stop overexerting yourself.

    Is it better to squat a shitton on Monday and pay for it through Friday, or get in all your reps every day at a reasonable weight as you work toward your goal weight?

    Hint: it's not the once a week. :wink:
     
  5. pats-hater

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    I do not stretch before or after unless I'm running or biking.

    I do a warm up set with just the bar before doing my squats. I squat 3 times a week too.

    I only got the soreness when I first started. And only when going up too fast in weight.
     
  6. pats-hater

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    How did you have energy to train with only 1200 cals intake?

    Were you strength training? How did you have enough fuel to build muscle instead of going into semi-starvation mode and creating fat?

    I'm going to SD for biz on Monday and I think might give this a shot but need answers to above please..
     
  7. Mambo9

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    Good work!

    Just one thing... NEVER EVER FRY WITH EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL!!!
    It's really bad for your health.

    In every other use yeah extra virgin olive oil is better... but not for frying, it creates toxins that are hard to get rid of.
     
  8. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    For one, The Vitamin Pack also contains an energy boost, and I routinely train first thing in the AM.

    1200 calories is plenty...(the kit gives two sets of numbers 1500 cal and 1200 )


    I always strength train AFTER very aggressive cardio. (never varies...partly because I always train in the morning, but I also find that having the muscles warm helps...)

    But..I've been doing it for years so I'm used to it.

    But remember the idea is to protect the muscle and dump some fat.


    Though as i said, it's really a jumpstart thing, It might be better to wait till you get home.
     
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  9. Yisman

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    I missed about two weeks at the gym because I was going to class and didn't want to go to class all sweated up, but I was able to go yesterday after class. My arms are still feeling it.

    I've been lifting a lot this year. My arms haven't been getting noticeably stronger, but hopefully it's doing something.

    Power twister at home, bench press, dumbbells, barbells, and some machine I don't know the name of at the gym. Also leg press, an ab workout, and exercise bike. I'm going away in August, so I'm hoping to do twice a week until then.
     
  10. pats-hater

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    Thanks. My routine is 20 minutes on the stationary on the endurance mode, max speed, then a 10 second walk to the treadmill and then its 10 minutes jogging fast, slightly uphill.

    Then I do my strength training. I had been doing a 5x5 but have switched my method.
     
  11. GordonGecko

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    Used to do that until I was told it was better otherwise. With Cardio first you don't have as much energy to complete all your lifts. But the real benefit to Cardio after is that by that point you've used up your glycogen and so you burn more fat
     
  12. Hobbes3259

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    Right. And Stocky to Fat runs heavy in my family so....

    But the other end of that is if you learn how to warm up, or work 5x5, or Start at the top and work descending, that's mitigated.
     
  13. Jake

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    You and I obviously do different programs. I do a mass-builder since I'm naturally lean (180 pds). Rep to failure is the basis of mass-building routines. I'm pretty sure DOMS is unavoidable... I tried the ice bath thing once; it didn't really help and was a miserable experience fuck that shit.
     
  14. GordonGecko

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    I dunno man, most people I know are usually sore the next day. I get DOMS and only get sore on the 2nd day after without fail
     
  15. Jake

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    So what the hell are you saying?
     
  16. GordonGecko

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    I'm saying the D in DOMS is delayed, being sore the next day doesn't count
     
  17. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Haha alright yeah I agree. I also feel it way more the 2nd day and on.... I've read a ton of shit on DOMS and a lot of the empirical shit contradicts each other when it comes to finding a way to reduce it.
     
  18. AlioTheFool

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    I think the point, Jake, is that you're doing something wrong. You're right, I don't work to failure. I would, but I've never had the time. Again though, perhaps you're just doing too much. There's a difference between doing 200lbs to failure and 300lbs to failure. If your body isn't worked up to the weight you're trying to do, you're putting more load on your tendons than they're prepared for, which injures them, then your body needs to spend more time recovering.

    There's nothing wrong with working to failure, but you have to be careful and work up to your goal weight, as with any weight program. You don't see those guys who pull trucks with their teeth in the He-Man competitions doing it on day one of training.

    Hopefully that was more clear than my previous post.
     
  19. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    In all fairness, the roids help with that.

    I love watching Worlds Strongest Man.



    Posting a pic of my six-pack...

    [​IMG]
     
  20. GordonGecko

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    Yeah, which is why I like Stronglifts. You do 3 sets til failure for things like pushups and chinups, but on the weights you have 5x5 every time and you start light adding 5 lbs every workout. If you fail, you try again 2 more times and if you can't make it then it confirms that you can't handle that weight yet so you deload and work back up. I've had to deload twice on the overhead press and each time I came back up to the fail weight I nailed it on the first try
     

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