Jets are willing to offer $100 million to Revis

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  1. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    http://footballoutsiders.com/under-cap/2010/under-cap-show-revis-money
     
  2. All Gas No Shake

    All Gas No Shake Well-Known Member

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    Ummm fourth. Revis, sheppard, strickland ... I know he played a lot becuase of injuries, but when he was on the field against above avg wr's he got abused. If you watched jets games this season, I don't know how you can dispute that
     
  3. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    To compare Lowery to Revis is silly. Sure you have that stat, but you know damn well he cannot come close to doing what Revis does in man coverage. It's not even a discussion.

    When Lowery was on the field he was always protected with help and I would venture to guess he was put in zone coverage much more frequently than man coverage.

    The defense was designed to make QB's throw at Revis in single coverage. He was the 3rd most thrown at CB in the league last year, so your argument that Lowery was targeted because of Revis is wrong. While Lowery may have had a good success rate when thrown at he was the benefactor of a smaller zone, lesser receiver and/or safety help quite a bit. All of which made his job far easier to do than what Revis was doing.

    If you honestly think for a second that Lowery would put up a similar number if put in the role Revis was in, you're nuts.
     
  4. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Yea, so that's the worst idea ever.

    EDIT: Nevermind, this is the worst idea ever:
     
  5. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    This is freaking ridiculous. One terrible decision by Al Davis is the difference between a cornerback threshold of 9.5 million and 15.5 million? I don't think so. I think the Jets are about to get stampeded into validating that number as a threshold for CB's when at the moment it absolutely is not.

    If I'm the Jets I let Revis contract play out and then see where we go from there. Asomugha didn't earn that 15.5 million by his play, he got it thrown at him by an aging owner who is next to clueless about what actually matters in the NFL in 2010.

    I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to be a negative nancy here but if the Jets are seriously considering validating the Asomugha contract by topping it something is seriously wrong in their front office right now.

    If Al Davis couldn't get a star QB to come to play in Oakland unless he threw 30 million a year at him would that make 30 million the new number for QB's?
     
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  6. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    It just gets better/worse:

    You mean the "move him to safety" poster boy?
    Just for accuracy's sake, this is the actual depth chart:

    1: Revis
    2: Lito
    3: Strickland
    4: Lowery
    Lowery got five starts because Strickland and Lito both liked to spend time on the bench, and those five starts include such amazing matchups as:

    WK 3: Titans - Nate Washington, A guy with worse hands than Brad Smith
    WK 4: Robert Meachem - 1 for 19. That's one for you.
    WK 7: Oakland - Now was it his performance stopping Louis Murphy or DHB from catching balls thrown by Jamarcus Russell that made able to replace a future HOF?(Yea, I said it)
    WK 8: Miami - Hartline/Bess/Camarillo, Someone call Canton!
    WK 10: Jax - Not Mike Simms-Walker

    Terrible, Hobbes. F.
     
  7. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Past Drafts:
    D'Brickashaw Ferguson
    Nick Mangold
    Brad Smith
    Leon Washington
    Darrelle Revis
    David Harris
    Dustin Keller
    Dwight Lowery
    Mark Sanchez
    Shonn Greene
    Matt Slauson(I can hope, damn it!)
    Past Signings/Trades:
    Alan Faneca
    Damien Woody
    Bart Scott
    Jim Leonhard
    Braylon Edwards
    Kris Jenkins
    This Year's Draft:
    Kyle Wilson
    Vladimir Ducasse
    Joe McKnight
    John Conner
    This Year's Signings/Trades:
    Antonio Cromartie
    Santonio Holmes
    Ladanian Tomlinson
    Yea, he's on the hot seat.
     
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  8. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    I don't really understand why Mike Tannenbaum and Woody can't just come out and say that the Asomugha contract is an outlier not likely to be repeated and certainly not by the Jets. That would reset everything to stage 1 in a hurry and everybody could move on from there.

    Instead Tannebaum is no doubt crafting offers to Revis that look like they're in the neighborhood but actually aren't, leaving Revis calling bullshit on them and the Jets going back to the drawing board. If you can't do an Asomugha contract because that contract is the product of an elderly man's dementia and not reality you should just come out and say you can't do that contract.

    It's not like this is Mark Sanchez getting priced out the realm of reality and the Jets are screwed if they don't go live in the Twilight Zone with him. This is a freaking cornerback. Only in Al Davis mind is a cornerback worth what a franchise QB is.
     
  9. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    You really cannot understand why an owner and a GM can't come out and basically say their counterparts are idiots?
     
  10. Br4d

    Br4d 2018 Weeb Ewbank Award

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    They don't have to say they're idiots, they just have to say the contract was idiotic. I think anybody could look at the Raiders record with Asomugha on the field and agree that he clearly is not worth 15 million dollars a year.

    They could say the contract was an artifact of the Raider's desperation to keep a great player on their team who would not stay any other way.

    They could say the contract was written at a time when the economy was still working well and was overly generous in it's assumptions.

    They could say that Asomugha was a free agent and prepared to walk and thus had the upper hand.

    The fact that the Jets are dealing from a point of apparent weakness here is staggering. It's almost Bradway-like. I'm having visions of Antoine Winfield at the dinner table with Terry Bradway and every time Bradway opens his mouth the price goes up and in the end it doesn't matter because Winfield signs somewhere else.

    This is just incompetent management on the Jet's part. They had Revis in a corner at the end of last season assuming he wanted a big extension and somehow using nothing other than the non-existent leverage that they think he has he has turned the tables and they're in the corner.
     
  11. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    How do we know Tannenbaum hasn't said that contract is bullshit?
     
  12. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    He's probably beaten around that bush for hours on end.
     
  13. Br4d

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    Because we just got leaked word that the Jets are planning to make Revis a 100 million dollar contract extension which would "top" Asomugha's contract.

    Now the fact that the contract actually won't do that, since the Jets will cut Revis after 6 years or so, is beside the point. They should just be able to say "sorry, we're not matching an outlier contract at this point, we'll be happy to negotiate on that basis in a couple of years if that turns out to be the bar at that point which we think it won't be."
     
  14. Hobbes3259

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    Yeah..worst Idea ever.

    hmmm MLB (clearly a dime a dozen),Center (more possible),Franchise LT (They come along every day), Franchise QB (When was the last time we had one)...

    Considering that Cromartie is possibly a viable replacement already on the roster, this post is a fail.

    Taking that one more step, they apparently valued Kyle Wilson in the same manner coming out of the draft as they did Revis...


    Cap value, vs On the field impact, two possibilities on the roster, one that can play...TODAY...and one that's a year or two off.

    Epic Fail.

    (And that's without pointing out that the original premise was if he balked at 100 Mil extension

    But hey you like to play asshole and misquote/nitpick my posts..why take my word for it.


    Remind me again where Aaron Glenn wound up when Parcells was here.

    Or Count the Top Dollar secondary bodies Beli has flushed down the toilet like last nights Taco Bell.


    but hey...I'm sure you and Sanchise know far more about relative player value than either of those two assholes.

    Your pants are visibly wet, please stop pissing in them.
     
  15. Mambo9

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    One point the fans don't get... it's not like every time Tanny speaks to REvis' agents he can then come to TGG.com ans say "Hey guys, I have a secret for you.. this is how negotiations are going but keep it to yourself"

    We have no idea what Tanny's actual position is...
    On the other hand the media always knows the player's agent's point of view because they try to use the media to their advantage.
    We'll see how it ends.

    IMO if this was Revis final year on his contract he'd get around 40+ mill in his first 3 years... but considering te fact we actually have him on the team for the next 3 years at half of that money (3 at 21 mill) he'll have to settle for something less... after all 3 years for 21 mill plus 3 years for 41 = 6 yrs at 31 (on a 3yr basis)... and you get the money faster too...
     
  16. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    So because the Jets offered a deal that wouldn't match Aso's it means we haven't called BS on that contract? I don't get it.

    What I've read he's balking at is that there is no guaranteed money which I can't blame him for. No NFL agent would ever consider a contract with no guaranteed money for a superstar player. That's where they make there money.
     
  17. Hennessy2710

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    Every time Teddy Bruschi speaks i fall that much more for him. He tore it up on NFL Live today and he was pointing out all the things we were saying. He talked about how darelle had it the wrong way when revis said you need to pay your players in order to form a dynasty. Bruschi was talking about sacrafices dynasty players have to make in order to sign the core four. Bruschi once again impresses me, very intelligent and knows what he was talking about. I hated him on the pats, never knew what type of guy he was but he cleary knows his shit. I might be a little bias though because throughout the playoffs all he was talking about on ESPN was how the jets are a legit contender
     
  18. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    you're falling for him? not that there's anything wrong with that.
     
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    haha, hes just one of the few analysts on ESPN that know what there talking about. Falling for him analyst wise haha. Im not on that Adam Schefter bandwagon just yet
     
  20. CodeGreen

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    Just get him signed, get it done our GM is supposed to be a cap "genius" so just sign it get it done
     

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