Further to that, if you had to choose between having Revis on the Jets, or Nick Mangold, you're crazy if you choose Revis on the current team over Mangold. Cromartie and Wilson are the next-in-line to Revis. Not too bad in terms of replacements. I don't even know who would take Mangold's spot if he wasn't snapping the ball. Then consider that Revis protects against the oppositions (usually) biggest game-changer that isn't a QB. Mangold protects the franchise. I love Revis, but people who are willing to give him whatever he wants are out of their minds. He should be an extremely rich man when all is said and done, but not Aso-extreme. In the end, this isn't about not valuing Revis, it's about valuing him in terms that allow us to also value Mangold, Harris, and D'Brick along with whoever in the Cromartie/Edwards/Holmes group we choose to re-sign.
Asomugha ain't gonna win jack shit. Revis is on a team that has the potential to be special and win a couple of SBs. I know what I'd prefer - $12m and playing for a terrific team (with Ryan's chaos) rather than $15m and playing with mediocre players, no chance to win anything. That would allow others (Mangold, Brick & Harris) to get their contracts sorted out, setting the Jets for the next 5 years or so. In 10 years time, Revis will still be talked about (like Rod Woodson), Aso will just be an afterthought, only known for that retarded contract.
That's the point. Nearly everyone here has no clue what they're talking about. Aside from Aso, the current market for the top 5 is around 10Mil per. A 20% increase on that is what's fair.
Yeah, the problem we have here is not that Darrelle Revis shouldn't be re-signed at top of the market value. The problem is that a senile old man in Oakland made a calculation that Nnamdi Asomugha was as valuable as Peyton Manning, a laughable notion that nobody who knows football would agree with, and then widely publicized that as the reason that he signed an insane deal. Davis even acquired a great defensive end at a high cost in terms of player value to reinforce his contention that Asomugha was a championship caliber player. His team then proceeded to go 5-11 again to point out to the world that paying a cornerback like a quarterback doesn't make him any more valuable than he actually is, which is to say minimal compared to a quarterback. The Raiders would have taken a step back last year without the Seymour deal, despite paying Asomugha like he was a great QB.
Another problem with using the Aso deal is that the crazy almost $17 MM/year figure is only for one year of the deal. 2/19/2009: Signed a three-year, $45.3 million contract. The first two years, totaling $28.6 million, are fully guaranteed. Another $4.7 million is available through incentives. To keep Asomugha through 2011, the Raiders must pay him either the franchise number for quarterbacks that year OR $16.875 million, whichever number is greater. If the club fails to exercise the option, Asomugha cannot be franchise tagged and will become an unrestricted free agent. 2010: $755,000 (+ $8 million roster bonus due 3/5 + $7.83 million option bonus due 3/19), 2011: $2.105 million (Club Option), 2012: $3.455 million (Voidable Years), 2013: $4.805 million, 2014: $6.155 million, 2015: Free Agent There's no way you can expect a long term deal based on one stupid year of a stupid deal.
Trade Revis to Oakland straight up for Aso, sign Aso to a new deal at 12 per. Include a clause that makes Revis' rights or a First Rd pick revert to us if the deal is renegotiated prior to the last year of the deal. Make Revis play out his rookie deal in Oakland. You Want an Oakland type deal. O.K....we'll send you there.
Offer him a reasonble deal if he says no then trade him. Revis is one hell of a player but, I cannot stand effing crybabies who don't want to stick with the contracts they sign. Another team would give up two #1s for Revis. I do not want Revis to go but it might come down to that.
Damn he would be PISSED if that happened.... He might come back to Florham late at night and burn it down if we did that to him.
I'd be floating that possibility to his agent, right F*ng now. The simple fact is...it's an AMAZING DEAL for Oakland. That makes the threat real. Could probably get Aso and a 2. You offer the 12 mil per over 6..(as an extension to the current deal keeping him through 2018) or the trade..with 48 hours before you float the deal publicly...
Why would Nnamdi Asomugha want to play for us when he's got 31 million guaranteed coming his way in Oakland even if there's a lockout next season? He's the richest player in football in terms of the compensation coming his way over the next two seasons and nothing short of a meteor the size of Manhattan hitting the earth can change that.
Would Revis be happy if he made a few mil a year less than Aso, BUT was offered let's say uhh.. 35% more guaranteed money than Aso got? Heard Revis said he was insulted by not having his guaranteed money at a respectable number.
That's incorrect, he only has one more year on his deal, in real terms... It's not a question of 'Why would Nnamdi Asomugha want to play for us' it's a question of, would Oakland trade a guy with one more guaranteed year, for a guy with 3 at half the price (average).
I just need to know... How can you trade Revis? Any team that intends on extending him won't surrender near his value. Although shutdown CBs aren't paid as much as elite players at other positions like QB, on the Jets D Revis has max value.
If we would pay Darrelle Revis 15 million in 2012 to keep him around why wouldn't Oakland pay Asomugha 16.8 million in 2011 to keep him around? This is Al Davis we're talking about. He can't trade Asomugha because he's the only guy stupid enough to pay that much and Asomugha cannot be franchised once his deal voids. That leaves Davis with two choices: pay Asomugha or void the contract which makes him a UFA. Believe me, Asomugha's money is in the bank. There's no way Davis lets him go for nothing. If the season is called off by March 1st then Asomugha never sees that money but if not then Davis will have to make a blind decision on whether or not to pay Asomugha or release him. Again, what do you think he's going to do?
As far as letting him go UFA, It's now justified because the JaBuffettable loss essentially puts DaRayduhs in rebuilding mode. As I pointed out earlier..we could move the 2012 $$$ to his year, then offer 6 at 12 per, behind his rookie deal. But..If Revis is hung up on the Oakland deal, we can send him there. Asomugha's agent knows he only gets to fleece Al once, and 12 mil per is nice coin.
yes, lets trade revis for a guy who is older, isnt as good, and makes more money than him. problem solved. thanks for coming out people.
why is trading a guy who will be 25 for a guy who will be 29 at the start of the season being seriously discussed as a straight up trade? Not to mention the whole issue of the 25 year old being better than the 29 year old.
