Trade Revis or pay him a lot?

He's going to get his new deal, he's going to make Aso money. It's a question of when not if.

 

Here's the problem: there's no question that Revis should be one of the most highly paid cornerbacks based on his skills. There's a big question about whether or not Asomugha's contract is a real reflection of cornerback value (and I think it is not) or just another crazy thing that Al Davis has done as he's slowly lost his grasp on reality. So if Revis was asking to be paid better than the group of free agent CB's that have signed in the last few years excluding Asomugha there's no question he'd be well justified in doing so.

Here's the next problem: what's a contract really worth in the NFL these days? There's no question that the value of a contract for a player is heavily diminished because teams tear up contracts all the time and release players when they think it is in their interest to do so. Does a contract have any real value to a team at this point? Revis is essentially demanding to be able to tear up his contract and negotiate a new one based on the perception that he has outplayed his existing contract. Should a player be able to do that given the reality that teams often do it? Open question.

Here's a third problem: what's the context in which a new contract will be played out? The existing CBA is not going to withstand the coming lockout and possible de-certification of the NFLPA. What are the terms and conditions that will apply to players and teams and contracts from 2011 and moving forward? Without this information, and it is not available at the moment and will not be until next spring/summer and maybe even fall, it's nearly impossible to peg a fair value on a long-term contract.

This is an easy situation for Revis to deal with: he just goes for a record contract and he'll be fine no matter what. It's much harder for the Jets who cannot know for sure what the ramifications of giving Revis that deal will be on their overall ability to compete moving forward. We just lived through Aaron Glenn, Marcus Coleman and a decent offensive tackle prospect getting dealt away for nothing so that we could keep Curtis Martin, Kevin Mawae, Chad Pennington and company moving forward. We lived through the "can't cut Vinny" years when cutting Vinny would have meant that we immediately had to cut several other quality players because his cap acceleration was huge. The unknowns for the Jets are huge and the only thing that is clear is that they cannot afford to give Revis a monster deal given the cloudiness on the horizon.

Final problem: what is a great cornerback worth in the overall scheme of things? Some of the best minds in football have come to the conclusion that cornerbacks are not cornerstone players on great football teams. Bill Belichik let Ty Law walk in his late prime and we all kind of looked at that and figured it was the injury, and then he let Asante Samuel walk and we realized that he just doesn't value great cornerbacks as though they were great assets. He thinks he can coach a decent corner up to the point that he's an asset and he obviously thinks that anything above that is unnecessary value that could be better spent elsewhere. Other good organizations, like the Steelers and the Colts and the Ravens have reached similar conclusions. Ozzie Newsome's quote about Rex Ryan wanting cornerbacks was likely said with more than a little weariness given that the Ravens haven't drafted a CB in the first round in a decade. Rex Ryan is probably very happy that he finally got to take a CB in the first round.

Edit: and you need another option in the poll, which is - Stand pat and let things play themselves out for this year and then take up the issue again in 2011.

 

Abyzmul posted a blurb regarding Revis in one of the other Revis threads....basically stating that Revis is worried about finanicial security (stemming from the Leon situation last year).

Now...Revis has every right to fight for every cent he's worth...and protect himself financially from injury.....but if he's going to balk at 12-14 million.....then his "financial security" argument is a load of bullshit.

I don't know about you guys....but 12-14 million would make my bank account feel pretty secure.

 

Revis should be the second Highest paid corner period if not first. They need to get him, Harris, Mangold and Brick signed and let chips fall where they may with the rest!

 

yes...and that's where the Jets FO needs to get their heads out of their asses......the no guaranteed money offers are fucking bunk.


I still believe the 2 sides will come to an agreement...it's just not going to happen right away. I mentioned in another post that I think Tanny is treading carefully with these contract negotiations...because the new CBA hasn't been drawn up yet.

Patience will pay off....for both sides.

 

As has been discussed to Dearth, The Raiders screwed up the market with Aso, and so now because we have arguably the best CB in the NFL we HAVE to pay more?
If Revis is as intelligent as purported, then he should realise where he stands.
Is there a team that would offer more than Aso's wages?

 

Guaranteed money before a lockout is a no-no. The club pays that even if they can't open camp because their fellow owners have called for a lockout and the NFL has forbidden teams to open camp.

Al Davis is screwed coming and going by the Aso deal because he's on the hook for every penny unless camp opens (no lockout) and Aso refuses to report.

 

Who cares, we pay the best players in the league whatever they want to come here now.

 

i think he would take 15mil guaranteed, and if not give him aso money...he deserves it

 

Just to add to this....I compare Revis to Roy Halladay of the Phillies....Roy's daily preparation, his dedication to improving his craft, and his overall work ethic is head's above all pitchers in the MLB. Plus, Roy has value in that he passes this knowledge and work ethic to his younger teammates (he's done wonders for AJ Burnett, S.Marcum, C.Carpenter and others).

Aside from elite play....Revis also brings this value to the Jets' lockeroom....he NEEDS to be around to school K.Wilson and other young defenders on their work ethic/preparation.

 

great post. i think this will all pan out in the end.

 

Pay the man.

 

Give him whatever he takes. Ideally, I'd want option #2, but Revis is a superstar.

 

Pay the man. This defense will suffer greatly in his absence. Shutting down a teams #1 receiver regardless of who it is a major major advantage.

 

Revis is looking like the Peyton Manning of cornerbacks. If the guy plays on the level he did last year for the next 10 years (he can in this defense) then he's worth every dime of overpaying a CB.

I understand wanting to give fair compensation based on position, but you need to take extroadinary measures when you have an extroadinary player, and Revis is as extroadinary as they come.

 

Darrelle Revis could have one of the greatest seasons a cornerback ever has had and the Jets could go 9-7. Oh, wait a minute he just did that. He could have an excellent season like he did the year before and the Jets could go 9-7. He could have a really solid season and they could go 4-12.

The reason Peyton Manning (and any great QB really) gets paid the way they do is that if they have a great season their team is going to win 11+ games and go to the playoffs.

There's just no argument for "Revis is the Peyton Manning of QB's, pay him like Peyton Manning." Nick Mangold is the Peyton Manning of Centers, anybody think he should get 16 mil per?

 

I'm with the majority. Disregard the Aso deal, but otherwise make Revis the highest paid CB. Lets be honest, if the Aso deal didn't exist we probably would have something settled by now.

 

11-12 is the market.

Ignore Asomugah. Beyond that the market is currently in the 10Mil per range.