Revis has stated publicly (and presumably to the FO behind closed doors) that he wants to be the highest paid CB. He's been adamant about that. Tanny knows this, so offering him ~$12m/$13m would be of absolutely no benefit to negotiations, and just piss Revis off in the meantime. If they're going to do that, why even bother making the offer? That makes no sense for the Jets. I don't agree with his asking price, as I don't agree with the Nnamdi deal, but he's made clear what his minimum requirements are. I'd wager Tanny offered him just shy of his asking price on the second offer, and stayed light on the guaranteed dollars. If they were ~$4m apart in negotiations, I don't think Revis would be so relaxed. Of course they are. It's one thing for it to be generally known that you're the best during the negotiating process, but it's another thing entirely to be called it repeatedly and emphatically by the HC. If you and I are having a debate about a debatable topic, the mere fact that it's "debatable" gives neither you or me a clear advantage in stating our cases. However, if you made a statement confirming my argument, you've just forfeited any ability push for concessions. Whatever small ability Tanny had to play hard ball no longer exists. I'm not saying Rex was wrong, I don't think he was, but I am saying the FO definitely is of the opinion things would have been easier without the compliments.
I basically agree with you, however if rex didnt say anything and they went into negotiations and said to tanny, "revis is the best corner in the league, he wants to be paid like it" tanny would not debate that, he wudnt say no he's not, therefore what rex said makes no difference. The important thing isnt whether or not both sides agree he is the best corner, it's whether revis's side gives in and doesnt base his demands of aso bc his contract is insane
Tanny wouldn't disagree with the Revis 'team', but he wouldn't confirm their claim. It's a negotiation involving millions of dollars - it's eat or be eaten. Tanny would play ignorant to the best of his ability to keep the contract as low as possible, as he should (within reason) as acting GM of the Jets. But, yes, this whole issue is about Al Davis' dumb a** and the Nnamdi deal, more than anything else.
I've basically stayed out of all the Darelle Revis threads, because frankly, I can't stomach it. We've got a major talent who wants to stay a Jet for his entire career (OK), but now the FO has to confront a complainer. Publicly. Revis' work ethic is unreal, but am I really starting to smell that quitter Randy Moss? REALLY?! Tell me it ain't so. I believe in making all the money you possibly can, don't get me wrong. Pay him, I'm down big time; but he should also keep Keels and Leon in his head.
I say turn the focus to lock up Nick Mangold tomorrow. Hard Knocks is going to be a gem with all this shit...
If what Revis is most interested in right now, to the point of rocking the boat, is to be the highest paid CB in football then that's what he's interested in. It's a shame because he really should be most interested in winning a Super Bowl, however the Jets have not really done much to keep their players focused on the big prize to date. One of the downsides of having as many highly publicized feuds with players who the front office could beat eventually, because they held all the leverage, is that when they are forced to go up against a player who is really that good they start from a weakened position. At the moment it's not clear there are any winners in this dispute or likely to be. The Jet's FO can definitely win the day, because Revis is under contract in a way that he can't avoid, however that'll just be another player who went up against the Jets on a money issue and lost - which is major bad mojo long term. I think the Jets hands are tied here and they need to back off and take care of business with Mangold, but I also think they're in trouble long-term with the general trend. They need to find a way to fix the PR problem with the players, because fixing it with the press isn't going to mean anything to the players they have to deal with down the road.
By that logic, guys like Derek Anderson should've been paid handsomely right after his lone all-star season. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
I don't think that's where Revis draws the line, it's just his initial negotiating point. He'll probably try to use the fact that they can't pay him $16 million a year to get more guaranteed money or something. Considering he's under contract for $21 million over the next three years, I'm sure he realizes $16 million a year won't realistically happen.
He did...didn't he? He got a short term, 3 year $24 mil deal with $14 mil in guarantees. Its pretty simple really. When you talk about contract, regardless of its time, you base it on your recent performance unless you've been hampered by an injury, in which case you base it upon potential. Top 10 draft picks get handsome paychecks without playing a snap in the NFL. Its based upon potential.
It sure sounded like his line in the sand in the press conference. He sounded pretty emphatic he wants to be paid more than any other CB. That means more than 16 million guaranteed per year. The biggest problem I had with his press conference is how he dealt with the economy questions. It seemed like he was really distancing himself from the 99% of us who don't make millions every year. That was the gist of the question - how can he demand 16 million a year when 10% of the population can't even find a job? 60 Jets employees had to take furloughs last year and the NFL cut 150 jobs in its New York offices last year.
As a businessman I have always had this philosophy and it does not change because it is Revis, I don't think any contracts should be renegotiated with more than a year left. This is the biggest problem in sports and this country, people do not want to live up to their obligations or commitments - you signed the deal, live wth it. He fought long and hard to negototiate his rookie contract that he and his agent were pleased with, missing signinficant training camp in doing so. Now 3 years later you want to renegotiate - bullshit. Be a f***ing man and live up to the agreement you signed. I would make him play out the next two before giving him anything, if he wants to be the highest paid player at his position- be the best player at your position for more than one year. If he plays lights out for the next two, do your best to try and accomodate him. But right now I wouldn't care if the Jets keep him for three and then let him walk. The O line is way more important to this teams long term success, than Revis is. And if he has no contract he has all the incentive in the world too keep up his level of play to earn the big payday from the Jets or another team.
lets put things into perspective for Mr.Revis. 1 solid rookie season 1 pro bowl-esque sophmore season 1 all pro season. Revis isnt hands down the best at his position and I can say that without blinking. especially after 1 year of looking like the best. let me see it again. ive said before I think itll ultimately equate to a 13.5 mil a year type deal. If anything id try to work most of the money guaranteed and see if itll help bring down his annual average. that being said, folks, keep in mind Rex Ryan has had kick ass defenses with CB's half of what Revis is. we lacked the front 7 depth to alow Rex's packages to wreak the havoc theyre supposed to. So Revis coverage bought more time for people to come off their block. In BAL their front 7 simply pushes the pocket more but theyre apt to give up the big pass when it matters most. I want Revis to retire a Jet, but at what cost? I think people underrate David Harris even though hes regarded as one of the core 4. IMO Harris could be had at a contract ranked 5th-10th at his position and hes simply a couple notches below Patrick Willis. not someone you replace easy at all. I'm not banging my hand on the table like some saying "FUCK REVIS!" but in all honesty, come preseason or training camp if hes still a headache and pissing and moaning for Aso money...... then I'd go out of my way to take care of Nick Mangold, in fact Mangold should already have his extension, hes been a better team player AND leader for us and hes LITERALLY on the last year of his contract. Mangold is also HANDS DOWN best at his position. not in the same 1A 1B scenario the average analyst would look at the Revis/CB position. I'll put it this way, worst case scenario brings us 3 options: -Revis makes negotiations exceedingly difficult, we buyback and he can either sit and lose money, or prove this season, once again, why he deserves the contract he desires. -If this truly becomes a mess and Revis starts dragging us through the dirt you secure the other core 3 and trade him for two 1sts. (trade after this year) Your left with Cro-Wilson-Lowrey and ammo for a proven vet or chances to beef up the front 7 or draft a replacement for Revis or even another WR after Edwards or Holmes leaves. possibilities speak for themselves there -Give Revis the buyback, and let the market be set after this season. Once he realizes CB's simply dont get 16M a yr unless your being paid to lose.
actually you can pin the fact that he is so christ like directly on rex. rex continues to talk about how he is the best corner and even so far as saying he is the best player he has coached... including guys named lewis and reed. thats where rex needs to stfu and be a football coach.
i enjoy all the hate that is now going revis way. i cant wait for this to happen to sanchez in another 2 years. life as a jets fan, it never gets dull.
if sanchez continues to progress youd never see this reaction. why? cause Sanchez is a QB. plain and simple
I think the fourth option is to tell Revis you can't redo the deal right now but you're willing to move some money around in it so he gets a lot more upfront. It really wouldn't be that hard to give him 7 of the 15 million in the last year this season instead so that he has some real cash coming in. Tell him that you'll renegotiate the overall deal in the last year, just like it should be. Yes it's a rookie contract, but no he's not making peanuts and he hasn't made peanuts at any point. This is the lowest year in the contract and the only one where he is clearly outperforming the deal. He can get annoyed and stinky about it but the facts are that he signed the deal and for the moment the Jets have all the leverage. Win a Super Bowl or two with him at the center of things and it will make the case better for the Jets to actually pay him in 2012. He'll be a year younger than Law was in the same situation with the Pats and hopefully not coming off a broken foot which is what sealed the deal for the Pats to let Law go.
Of course not. Logical arguments like that would hurt his argument. I love Revis but I really wish he would stop using one of the worst contracts ever written in this league to justify his demands.
