Observation about Rex Ryan

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  1. fozzi58

    fozzi58 Well-Known Member

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    Other have stated the same thing. The downfall of Mangini and why Vilma is not a Jet is because of that philosophy - not changing the scheme to fit the players on hand. Guys like Bellicheat and Mangina are reasons certain players don't work - its because they are locked into a specific scheme.

    Ryan is just the opposite. If he had a DL of 4-3 type players, he would employ that scheme. If safties are strong and CBs are weak (a la Ravens 2006), thats the way he goes. We have strong corners and solid the rest of the way around. So his Defensive techniques will use the strong CBs and force other teams to run, go slants in between the safeties, or pick up a shitload of coverage sacks.

    And the rubbing off on Schotty is probably a good guess too.
     
  2. FriendlyGiantsFan

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    I'm judging the players as they were under Ryan's coaching. Lewis was well past his prime by 2005. I'm not saying he's bad, mind you, but I would happily take Harris now over Lewis now.
     
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    I'm not going to judge the man by what he does in his recreational time, but I'm also going to try really hard not to think about that.
     
  4. All Gas No Shake

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    they finished 8th against the run last year, without jenkins for more than half of the year ... i think youre underrating them
     
  5. Br4d

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    The Fins didn't follow their own blueprint the second game. They got out of the wildcat and the ground and pound, literally didn't use the wildcat except for a couple of plays, and let Henne try to beat the Jets which he did due to a couple of KR's and one blown coverage in the secondary.

    They'll be using the game one blueprint this year again is my guess. Darrelle Revis and the Jets blitzes aren't a big factor if you control the game on the ground as a few teams tried to do successfully last year. More teams will try that this year.
     
  6. MadBacker Prime

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    Henne threw for 112 yards that game, so he didn't beat us too much.... Almost half those yards were screen passes.
     
  7. Br4d

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    And the other half was Ted Ginn going deep on a blown coverage.

    That game was like 3-3 at halftime and then all hell broke loose. I remember wondering at halftime why the Fins hadn't run the wildcat at all. It was like the most un-Parcellish thing I'd ever seen, he knew how to beat the Jets defense and wasn't using the plan.
     
  8. MadBacker Prime

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    I think you're getting the games mixed up.

    If by Ginn going deep you mean the two KR's for TD's then yes.


    Chad's longest past was to Ricky Williams for 28 yards. We are talking game 2 here right?



    Rex shut down the Miami offense, special teams blew that game.
     
  9. Br4d

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    Yep, I was transposing the Ginn TD on the second game. The point still holds though, the Fins passed more than they ran in game 2 and didn't use the wildcat much at all and that's why they got shutdown. 10 of their first 14 plays were passes and they got nowhere early on. In the first game they ran 9 runs including 3 out of the wildcat on their first drive and only threw the ball 3 times and scored easily.
     
  10. MadBacker Prime

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    Rex had the WC shutdown, that is why they abandoned it. If you look at their stats in game two, Rex seemed to know every move they were going to make.

    Game 1 was a much different story.
     
  11. dthomas53

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    That stat isn't entirely indicative of the DL's play. Obviously, the rest of the defense factors into that stat.

    Don't get me wrong, the DL stepped up nicely last season, overachieving what anyone ever expected. I really believe we found a diamond in the rough with DeVito last year, especially after going back and watching the games again.

    But you have to consider that we lost Douglas, Ellis is a year older, Jenkins is coming off the injury, the rest of our depth is average at (very) best, and we didn't draft anyone to groom.Contrast that with our S positions, and I don't think there's even a debate. Leonhard could very well be a pro-bowler next season, and if Pool can stay healthy, our secondary will be second to none.

    P.S. Eric Smith is no slouch either.

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