this time last year we were saying kris jenkins is the most important player on the team. rex did just fine w/o elite corners in baltimore. he tailors his scheme to his available personel
Drafted Jets Deserving of New Contracts ~Darrelle Revis ~Nick Mangold ~D'Brickashaw Ferguson ~David Harris ~Shaun Ellis Talent of Said Players 1. Darrelle Revis 2. Nick Mangold 3. David Harris 4. Shaun Ellis 5. D'Brickashaw Ferguson Importance of Each Position to Any Given Franchise 1. Left Tackle 2. Center 3. Cornerback 4. ILB 5. 3-4 DE Importance of Player to Success of Jets 1. D'Brickashaw Ferguson 2. Nick Mangold 3. David Harris 4. Darrelle Revis 5. Shaun Ellis Explanation of Discrepancy between second and fourth rankings (talent of back-ups) 1. Antonio Cromartie or Kyle Wilson (Revis) 2. Mike DeVito (Ellis) . . . . . . . 3. Wayne Hunter (Brick) 4. Rob Turner (Mangold) 5. Kenwin Cummings (Harris)
How is Shaun Ellis more talented than Brick? If Revis is more talented than Harris and CB is more important than ILB how is Harris more important than Revis?
Your first question is entirely opinion. One I'm not sure of, I'll admit. If you swapped Ellis with Ferguson in that ranking, I wouldn't object. But Ellis gets no props for doing his job well. I don't know how many DE's would be an upgrade over Ellis. Second question: who replaces Harris vs. who replaces Revis? We have nobody, nobody of clear value behind Scott and Harris. We have a pro bowler in his prime and a first rounder behind Revis.
No need to panic here. Worst case scenario we just buy out Revis' contract for two more years. However, Revis will end up getting a deal done because he's only making peanuts this season and any extension the Jets offer will be financially better for Revis than playing the next 3 seasons for 21mil.
Revis is our best player. He's probably also our most respected player that pretty much every team (except the Dolphins, they have Marshall) fears. Let's not talk about what the possibility of losing him would mean.
U think thats not the norm in the NFL? Every single team has that going on. If they don't lie, they lose the edge in contract negotiations or in competing with other teams by giving out info about ur players and where they stand. Whatever they do, they do to protect the franchise.
revis is more important then anyone on this team without him the way we play defense completely changes. without revis last season do the jets make the playoffs? no chance. that's unless you think lito, coleman, lowery, and often injured strickland would lock down #1 receivers.
I just need to point out a couple of obvious things: first, the Jet's defense has been bad, mediocre and good with Revis in the lineup. The thing that changed last year was not who covered the #1 WR on the opposing team but the guy who called the plays on defense and took chances. Yes, Revis is a great player and no the Jet's defense would not collapse without him. It would probably be worse than it is but still a good defense if Rex Ryan was calling the shots. Secondly, the Jets do not have to make this decision this year, and probably shouldn't. It's not wise to make big decisions at times of great uncertainty unless you have no other choice. The Jets have the latitude to keep Revis under contract for two more years after 2010 if they have to and it would be wise to let that be the status quo until the new CBA (or lack thereof) becomes reality in the fall of 2011 at the latest. Finally, Asomugha's contract is up after 2010. Who knows what the price for a #1 CB is going to be when that happens? It's quite possible he can't find another sucker as big as Al Davis and then the measure for a Revis contract becomes lower, maybe substantially so.
I don't think it's out of the question to say that without Revis the Jets lose 3-4 more games in 2009. Rex is definitely the reason the defense was so effective, but he used the tools he had at his disposal. He put Revis in single coverage most times on the #1 receiver of each team they played and Revis still have over 100 balls thrown his way - and QB had a 32.3 QB rating when doing so. He saved a ton of impact plays from happening. And killed momentum. Rex Ryan loves corners and he knows how to use them to kill opposing teams. For that sole reason, Revis was the most important player on the Jets' defense in 2009. That said, I don't think he's going to need to be the most important player on the defense in 2010. The team has been improved on to the point that they don't need to rely on him so heavily moving forward.
Mangold should be the priority right now. This is the last year of his contract and he's the best center in the league. Braylon and Brick could earn new contracts during the season (although BE likely won't be re-signed while Santonio is still on the roster).
Do the Jets make the playoffs without Mangold? or D'Brick? NO WAY The question is what will the cap rules be in a year or two? A question, no one can answer obviously. If the cap limits teams' spending, then the price tag of Revis would not be getting the best value vs. locking up Mangold, D'Brick and Harris. If you had to choose one or the other: Revis = 16mil/yr for 5/6yrs or say Mangold/D'Brick/Harris = say 20mil/yr for 5/6yrs Self expanatory what the value is, ESPECIALLY when we just drafted Wilson and possibility of signing Cromartie to say a 6mil/yr contract. I'm obvioously just speculating on price tags but I don't believe I'm way off target.
I second this. I remember reading an article about the importance of players that play in the middle of the field, as opposed to the players near the sidelines. If your central players perform, then your sideline players will in return. It doesn't work the other way around, however. Ok. No CBs on Jets current roster will be able to replace Revis - that is just not possible. But, I would think that, K-Dub will replace Revis's shoe just fine, and Cro will be fine as #2. Don Warren and Lowery can be the nickel/dime backs, so losing Revis won't be as big of a hit that can ruin the foundation of the team. (Make no mistake - losing Revis is a colossal hit for any defense.) In the mean time, can the Jets offense afford to lose Mangold AND Ferguson? It's very obvious - Jets will be lucky to end up 8-8 without them. Hell, if Jenkins can stay healthy for the whole season, drawing double- or triple-teams, and Jason Taylor (or the future OLB pick after this year) can provide much-needed pass rush, then K-Dub and Cro will do just as admirably.
It's definitely not out of the question but it's also not clear they'd have lost even 1 more game without Revis. Who was going to win those extra games? Buffalo was going to sweep the Jets? No. Tampa Bay? Not. Houston was going to score 18 extra points on the Jets on opening day because Revis wasn't there? That's a pretty large margin to ascribe to a CB, even the best in the NFL. Moving on, Tennessee was ranked 23rd in passing offense last season and when the Jets played them Kerry Collins was going much worse than that. That's a win Revis or no. Oakland? Please. Carolina? Not with Jake Delhomme having a crappy season. So that leaves us with the Tom Brady rust in game 2, which might have been a loss without Revis but Brady looked really poor that day when he threw to anybody under pressure. Brady missed a wide open Randy Moss for a possible TD on the Pat's second series and had several other overthrows also. I think the pressure from Ryan just did him in that day. The last two games were gimmes from playoff teams packing it in. Yeah Peyton probably would have lit up a Revis-less Jets, just like he lit up the team with Revis a month later. The Bengals game is impossible to call because they were resting so many people early on. I think the Jets maybe lose 1 additional game without Revis in 2009. It's possible that some of the losses might have been due to the defense more than the offense but that wouldn't have meant much to the season's bottom line.
One thing that should be taken into consideration by Revis and his agent is what franchise gave Aso that contract. The Raiders had to pay Aso $$$$ to stay on their crap franchise, that's why he got paid that much, not because he actually was worth it to them or anyone. Revis is on one of the most exciting teams in the league, in the greatest city in america, with a great coach and a chance to win the Superbowl. We freakin' named Manhattan after him!! That should be worth something. I can't believe he's being a baby about how much he's going to make, unless they are really low balling him. Just sign the reasonable contract and go win a Superbowl. Sure he's the best CB in the league, but it's stupid to pay a CB franchise QB money.
