I'm talking of course about Mangold, Harris, Ferguson and Revis of course. It's common knowledge that we'll have to re-sign them all after this season otherwise we're screwed but that couldn't be more wrong!!! Let's look at their contracts one by one: (all numbers are salary cap numbers) 1. Nick Mangold He's the only one who has a 5yr contract expiring after this season. He cannot be tendered so if we want to keep him without offering a long term deal we'd have to franchise him. Although it would make sense money-wise, because once he signs a new contract he'll probably be the highest paid C in the league, I would prefer to franchise-then-trade some of the other guys on the roster whose contract will expire. But we have flexibility and that's always a good thing. 2. David Harris After 2010 his contract will indeed expire but since it's only a 4yr deal we can tender him in case we have to give out big contracts to other guys. Again I don't think it will happen but at least it gives us flexibility. PS Of course we won't know if the tender exists until we find out how the new CBA is structured. 3. D'Brickahsaw Ferguson He's actually under contract through 2011 when he'll be due 12.7 mill dollars. It's a lot of money but how much less is he going to make on a new contract? I think he is 10-12 mill dollars player anyways. 4. Darrelle Revis His contract is quite complicated but in simple terms the Jets can buy back 2011 for a bonus of 5 mill and 2012 for a bonus of 11 or 15 mill (prob 15)... this means in 2011 he'd earn (5 + 2) = 7 mill and in 2012 (15 + 2) = 17 mill. When he'll get a new contract I believe it will be in the 15 mill region so why not let him play 2011 on 7 mill? If shit happens in the negotiations it could also be an option to make him play 2012 at 17 mill! So all in all I think the best option for us is to: 2011: Re-sign Mangold and Ferguson. Those will be two fairly big contract re-negotiations but I wouldn't want to renegotiate Brick's deal the same year we have to take care of Revis. Their deal should be made so that that their salary in 2012 is as small as possible. Tender D. Harris with a 1st and 3rd (we can still match offers in case someone is so crazy to make one). Let Revis play on his 2011 contract (7 mill). 2012: In 2012 Some big contracts will end (Jenkins, Gholston's dead money, ecc) and make room for the re-signing of Revis, which will be (prob) the biggest contract ever signed by a CB. Always in 2012 we can re-sign D. Harris to a long term deal since ILB isn't an extremely highly paid position. All in all, whatever our FO decides to do, there's no reason to panic . PS Fun fact... why should Mangold be pissed. The rules say contracts negotiated this year cannot make base salaries go up more than 30% each year. Mangold's base salary this year is 3.3 mill. let's see what the max BASE SALARY figures Mangold could get by raising his contract each year 30% are. 2010: 4 mill 2011: 5.2 mill 2012: 6.76 mill 2013:8.78 mill Let's say they give him 5 mill in 2011, 6.5 in 2012, 7 in 2013 and 7 in 2014 in BASE SALARY. That's a total of 29.5 mill in base salary. To make that deal round out to 8mill a year (Evans deal is 8.1) they would have to give him a signing bonus of (40 - 29.5) = 10.5 mill!!! That's not much at all for a player of Mangold's caliber!!! This is why they should re-do his contract this season!!!
I don't think the remaining receiver (Edwards or Holmes) is going to get a big deal. I think we'll keep the cheaper of the two. Ryan will make damn sure Harris and Revis stay on this team. Mangold and Ferguson should be career Jets as well. I just don't see this team spending big money on a receiver. It's just not in our gameplan. I know Sanchez is going to need weapons to develop, but they don't have to cost so much.
Good post, but if the new CBA is reached, we won't be able to tender Harris. If a new CBA is not reached, we'd be able to tender both him and Mangold. If a new CBA isnt reached, there will probably be a lockput anyway. I'd rather deal with both of them now, but the 30% restrictions make that dificult unless we were to tear up their rookie contracts and sign them to new ones. The only restrictions on uncapped year new contracts is a 30% limit on decreases. I'd imagine Revis signs for less than $15 million, and a deal could be made more cap friendly by renegotiating him to a shared value over 2011 and 2012 which then gets extended and increased. We're free to deal with him since his contract technically voids.
Why exactly is David Harris a restricted free agent next year? Based on the old cba couldn't you only control a player for 4 years not 5 years? Regardless of the rules we have no idea if the NFL will ever have another franchise tag or what restricted free agency will be down the road. As far as we are concerned based on current contracts we control the big 4 through the following seasons: 2010: Mangold, Harris 2011: Brick 2012: Revis
we wont lose, mangold, revis, ferg, or harris. none of those 4. we have revis til 2012, but he is making 1MILLION this year. He will want his contract restructured. he is arguably the best defensive player in football, so 1 million for this year alone is bullshit for revis.
Forgot to mention that you illustrated well why I think Mangold will be renegotiated this year. The interesting thing is that the CBA says nothing about renegotiating in an uncapped year. It simply places restrictions on contracts begun in a capped year and extending into the final league year or beyond. Since pre-opt out that was 2011, some teams are put into tough situations by failing to account for an earlier FLY. Still, there's nothing to stop a teardown re-sign.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...ick-Willis-with-some-creative-?urn=nfl,238809 49ers lock up Patrick Willis with some creative accounting By Doug Farrar There's no doubt that San Francisco 49ers middle linebacker Patrick Willis(notes) is one of the best players at his position in the NFL. Since being picked with the 11th overall selection in the 2007 draft, Willis has transcended what was an initially porous defense, become its on-field leader and helped it become an effective (if underrated) unit. And since Willis' five-year, $16.7 million rookie contract had just one year remaining, it was time for the Niners to fill out an already exceptional offseason by signing their best player to a new deal. There was only one problem with the compensation -- while Willis deserved to be paid as the star he has become, there's a kink in the NFL's post-CBA landscape called the 30-percent rule. This rule, which kicked in once the NFL went to an uncapped year, states that no renegotiation or extension of a current contract may increase a player's base salary by more than 30 percent. But as Marvin Miller eventually did in defeating the reserve clause in baseball, 49ers chief negotiator Paraag Marathe (one of the new wave of "Moneyball" guys) clearly saw the rule as a series of one-year agreements as opposed to an extending base. Thus, the team could increase Willis' base salary and further fund the new contract by giving him two different signing bonuses. According to Pro Football Talk, Willis received a first signing bonus of $15.5 million as part of a five-year, $50 million extension (basically, a seven-year, $53.3 million contract). Then, the team got creative by giving Willis a second signing bonus of $4.8 million in 2011. And as PFT's Mike Florio indicated, the second signing bonus is put on a perch with an injury-only guarantee -- this means that the team isn't stuck with funding the payment now. Contract details aren't generally among the most exciting things in any sport, but in a modern NFL where the new rules are often used to limit players from making what they deserve and fulfilling their financial potential, it's good to see one team using a real knowledge of the situation to lock up a franchise cornerstone. The player is happy, the team is happy, and Roger Goodell is probably annoyed that someone in the NFL is smarter than him. What more could we ask for?
Me neither. In the uncapped year you can only prorate a signing bonus over 5 years. Maybe he has an additional bonus in 2012 that is prorated over the next 5 seasons?
The National Football Post says it's a 5 year extension from when his current contract ends. He has two years left on his current contract. I would think that if the niners found a loophole that Tannenbaum could utilize it to get Mangold signed up long term since he has a high base salary in 2010. Mangold has $3.3 million in 2010 so giving him 30% increases plus a nice signing bonus and he should remain a Jet for life.
He's due $760k this year and $2.6 million next. I'm actually quite surprised that they didn't restructure this and next year as part of the deal, increasing those to bring down the signing bonus. As I said in another thread, if his 2009 salary number that I got was correct, they could have worked his total bonus down to about $12 million. Sounds a lot better than $20.3 million in total SBs if you ask me.
These four will stay, as will one of Holmes or Edwards and depending on the deal Wilson signs maybe Cro.
I would really take a load off my mind if they could get Mangold extended this off season sometime. After the mini shakeup with the Oline losing Faneca and drafting Ducasse in the 2nd round, a show of stability could really go a long way right now. I'm hoping Tanny can figure out a way to do something fair that allows us flexibility in signing these other 3 when the cap comes back.
I agree... it would also send a message since we got rid of many locker room favorites... C'mon Tanny, get the job done!!!
