1. Linval Joseph, 3-4 DL, East Carolina: - A poor man's Haloti Ngata. Ryan needs to bring in more young players that fit his scheme. Joseph will be a huge piece to this puzzle. I feel like Everson Griffen will be gone before the Jets pick. In all honesty, I'd be happy with either of the two. There's a few posters that feel we can trade back into the second and get Joseph. The new draft format is going to change things. If we have a shot at a player, we need to pull the trigger. Who's to say that a team won't trade ahead of our second rounder during the overnight wait? This new format is going to really shake things up. 2. Matt Tennant, OL, Boston College - A tough SOB that can play almost every position on the offensive line. Alan Faneca and Damien Woody will have to be replaced sooner than later, and Tennant can fill in at either spot. A very intelligent lineman with great technique. He's not the biggest lineman out there, but neither is Faneca. 4. Greg Hardy, 3-4 OLB, Ole Miss - A developmental pass rusher that never really put it all together at the college level. Injuries and inconsistancy have caused him to slide into the middle rounds. Unlike Vernon Gholston, Hardy has a wide variety of pass rushing moves. If he stays healthy and gets some good coaching, he'll be a steal. 6. Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan - The forgotten man. Here's a guy that was considered a top tier talent at the beginning of the year, but took a huge fall because of a mediocre junior season and a poor combine. Warren is a physical defensive back that's at his best in man-to-man coverage. Another prospect that just needs to put it all together. I'm not sure if he'll fall quite this far, but it's definitely a possibility. At the very least, he'll be a strong performer on special teams...very good tackler. Made a mistake by leaving early. 7. Chris Brown, RB, Oklahoma - Overshadowed by Sam Bradford's huge numbers and the more athletic DeMarco Murray, Brown has been quietly productive at Oklahoma. Brown's a tough, physical back that does a lot of damage in the redzone. I think he'll be a heck of a running back if he's used in a committee. Comments wanted. Let the debating begin!
Depending on how the board falls, June Joseph could probably be the best overall choice for our team. The defensive line is crumbling becauase of age. We need to improve it, and Joseph can play multiple positions in the 43, 34, and 46.
I honestly think no matter how the board falls Joseph still isn't worthy of a first rounder. He's early-mid 2nd value IMO. Unless everyone rated higher than him at DL is taken and there's nothing at positions which would be better than Joseph to the Jets. I don't know how they rate him, but I wouldn't do it although I know a lot of the TGG draftniks are high on him.
That's a hell of a mock. I'm warming up to Joseph thanks to Jabba's persistence. I didn't know much about him until recently and have done some reading/watching. I agree that it just takes one eager GM to ruin plans between Day 1 and 2. I'd like to think that there would be value there to make it worthwhile to drop back anyway, but I'd be thrilled if we addressed all of those positions in the draft.
The only 34 lineman that should go in the first round will be gone. Dan Williams and Jared Odrick will not make it to us. Terrence Cody is too one dimensional to play in Ryan's scheme. I'd take Joseph over the majority of the prospects that fall to the backend of the first round. You don't come across big players that are as athletic and as versatile as he is.
Thanks Iggy. I'm all for trading back and acquiring more picks, but this new format scares me. Every single GM will be given a ton of time to move up the boards during that overnight wait. The only position that I left out is safety. I think our safety platoon is decent, but another free agent should be signed. Myron Rolle will be an intriguing prospect if he makes it out of the third.
I remember last year between Days 1 and 2. I told a friend of mine not to be surprised if he woke up on Sunday and found the Jets on the clock. After what Tanny did last year, I'd assume there will be all kinds of between day dealing going on with St. Louis. It worked out well for Detroit, too. The one nice part about dropping back would be the ability to address the safety position as well. I won't be too disappointed if we can't pick one up in the draft because of the potential of the rotation, but like you said, someone else could very well come aboard.
No secret I'm high on Joseph too Tennant cracked my TOP 100 as more of a 3rd Rounder, but he's a good player who might be worth a late 2 ... could be a nice sneaky pick I see what you did with Hardy and Warren and its not a bad idea ... took two players who were rated much higher at the outset, trying to catch lightning in a bottle Brown is a nice sleeper with that 7 .. its hard to be a sleeper when you play at a traditional power house, but he does sort of fly under the radar for a guy who scored 20 rushing TD's as a Junior All in all its a good job
I'd be very happy with this. I think round 2 is the perfect spot for us to address the offensive line. The talent is still very deep at that point, and the pick doesn't come with the stigma that a 1st rounder would have for sitting on the bench for a year. If Brown and Stafon Johnson are both on the board in the 7th, would you still take Brown? I don't think I've heard your thoughts on Johnson.
Thanks man. Tennant is just such a smart, versatile player that I couldn't pass up on him. I think he's a late second, early third round prospect. He's a prospect that can play inside at guard or outside at tackle. I like him as a replacement for Faneca. He's a very similar player. Boston College's pedigree is also a plus. You're exactly right about Hardy and Warren. They have the potential to be very good players and Ryan is guy that likes to coach players up. Both prospects also have "serial murderer" mentalities. They love to hit and play physical football. Chris Brown is a super sleeper. He'll never be an elite back in the NFL, but he could be a nice backup at the position.
I feel the same way. For me, this draft is all about versatility and potential. Tennant is a very underrated, durable offensive lineman. Chris Brown's production is hard to argue with...I mean the guy scored 42 TDs in his career. Like Jabba said, he scored 20 as a junior. The kid just has a nose for the endzone. I was really upset about what happened to Stafon Johnson. Losing him really hurt USC in 2009. This is a toss up...both guys bring different things to the table. If Johnson can come back and play at full strength, he'll end up a starter in this league, no doubt in my mind. ...but Brown fits into our style of play - between the tackles, tough, hard-nosed running style.
Great Mock draft, I was thinking about the draft press conference this morning and remembered Bradway talking about this being one of the deepest TE drafts that he has seen in a long time. Last time I remember him saying that he ended up drafting Baker. Do you that as a possibility again this year, if so, who do you feel would be a good fit?
It's definitely possible. If Mickey Shuler Jr's around late in the draft, I think he'll be a New York Jet. This is a deep TE class filled with a ton of solid blockers. Ben Hartsock was a major contributor in our run offense, so if we brought in a tight end, he'd be a third stringer. If the Jets went after a TE, it would have to be late in the draft...sixth or seventh round. Pitt's Nate Byham is a guy the Jets will probably take a long, hard look at. Here's a guy to keep an eye on: Colorado's Riar Geer - one of the more underrated, but best blocking tight ends in this draft.
Have been seeing the same thing I have? This kid completely fell off the map. Warren hasn't been mentioned by anyone, even the talking heads on ESPN and NFL Network, for quite some time. He curb stomped his draft stock at the combine. This is a kid that was being compare to Darrelle Revis before the college football season started.
agreed, to be honest if we have our eyes on Joseph, the only way I would be ok with a trade down, would be if we are drafting between 33-35. That way we are only really looking at 2-3 potential trade partners that people could move up with, and would Joseph really be the best player that slid out of the first? I dunno, but like E says if Joseph is the guy we identified and he is the one we want/need, just take the guy at 29 and don't screw around with this format...
I really like this mock. I love Joseph in the first and Donovan Joseph in the 6th. He could be a huge steal. I wouldn't mind trading Chris Brown out for Nate Byham or Mickey Shuler, though.
There is something I think we are missing, here though. What you said is right; however, just like we are nervous about missing out on OUR guy (i.e. Joseph) by trading down because GMs will have all night to jump in front of our pick and nab him to address their need....... Every other GM is nervous that someone will jump in front of THEM to address the other team's need. I think it's very possible that toward the end of Day 1, a nervous GM will be willing to offer great trade-back value so that he can assure he gets the guy he wants before Day 1 ends. He will fear that another team will trade up with St. Louis/Detroit/Tampa overnight, and he might lose out on the Colt McCoy/Tim Tebow/Demaryius Thomas/Aurrelious Benn/Golden Tate/Jerry Hughes/Nate Allen that he values so highly on his board and for his team. I could see this really working to our advantage if we're willing to be the patient team.
