Yankees @ Red Sox- Opening Series

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  1. Cappy

    Cappy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but Granderson is replacing Damon. Gardner is replacing Melky. That's the proper comparison.
     
  2. typeOnegative13NY

    typeOnegative13NY Well-Known Member

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    Disappointing game ofcourse. But not a big deal. It will be NYY and TB duking it out for the east with Boston finishing 3rd.
     
  3. IATA

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    TB will be lucky to finish within 10 games of the division winner, let alone fighting for the title.
     
  4. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I guess it was. Igawa could at least get to a 15 pitch count and not break down.
     
  5. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Why?

    The only people who fucking back their argument or counter arguments up in these treads are Cappy and Alio.

    Stop being lazy. (goes for me too).
     
  6. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    So, nice bullpen cashless put together there, huh?
     
  7. Cappy

    Cappy Well-Known Member

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    Aside from the fact that only idiots make conclusive judgments based on the first game of the season, it's a better pen than the one they started last year with. Last year turned out all right.

    Didn't we go over this last year? Bullpen guys are fickle year to year. Better to have depth. The Yanks have that. If Park or Joba aren't getting it done, they have half a dozen decent arms out there to use.
     
  8. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    Chan Ho Park sucks dagger. I didn't like the signing when it happened, and I hope he proves me wrong. But I think he will be brutal all year.
     
  9. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    The kid who played CF in the future stars game looked like a bigger and better Gardner. He was super fast and had a better arm. They kid should get a shot.
     
  10. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I also hate the bench.
     
  11. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    You are of course aware that Matsuzaka has pitched about 5 times as many innings as Igawa right?
     
  12. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    No I'm not aware of that. Thanks for letting me know.
     
  13. dwalsh

    dwalsh 2006 TGG.com Rookie of the Year Award Winner

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    Slade Heathcott, the first round pick from the 2009 draft? The kid who has all of 3 games and 11 PA to his resume?

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  14. Cappy

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    You talking about Heathcott? He might get a shot one day, but that day's probably a few years off, at least. He's 18 years old and has had a total of 10 pro ABs. [understatement of the year]I think there are probably a few obstacles for him to overcome. [/understatement of the year]

    (ETA: What dwalsh said.)

    I can understand this, but there are a couple of points to be made here:

    1. Similar to my earlier point about the pen, it's still a much better bench than they had all of last year. (On paper, of course. Variance will do what it does, but the moves aren't bad ones.)
    2. If the general consensus is that the Yanks' problem areas are their bench and middle relief, I'd say that's a pretty good place to be at the start of the season. Those are the most easily replaceable roles.
     
  15. devilonthetownhallroof

    devilonthetownhallroof 2007 TGG Fantasy Baseball League Champion

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    Anytime.

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  16. Cellar-door

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    WTF are you talking about? Your argument is so stupid I'm not even sure what your point was. The only thing Igawa and Matsuzaka have in common is that they are Japanese.
     
  17. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    I'll go the devil route...who are you?


    Cap, I don't know how much tenure the kid had. I'm just going by what I saw and if Gardner can make a major leave club so can this kid. I didn't realize he was only 18.

    The bench...to me, It appears Wynn is the go to PH. I wish they kept Hairston.
     
  18. Cappy

    Cappy Well-Known Member

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    But how can you say that based on what you saw from one game? Gardner was able to make a major league club because he's very fast AND because he's shown the ability to get on base at a decent rate at all levels. We have no idea if Heathcott can do that, or how his baseball skills will translate to the different levels. He could flame out in high-A ball for all we know.

    And how many times are you going to run into a situation where you need a pinch hitter with this lineup? Maybe with Granderson against lefties? Okay... but in that case, it'll probably be Thames as the pinch hitter. And he hits lefties very well, and is a better overall hitter than Hairston. Winn can be useful as a pinch runner/defensive replacement, or -- if he bounces back from his awful season -- as a possible platoon player against lefties.

    As for the rest of the bench, I like Pena and Cervelli more than Hairston/Ransom and Molina.

    Any problems with these roster spots should be the most minor of quibbles, anyhow.
     
  19. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Right but...with an as of now shaky bullpen, in a National league series when you are going to pitcher hop, you will need bats off the bench.
     
  20. Cappy

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    It's one game, dude! There's no way you can make that judgment.

    Have you lost faith in Teixeira? He was 0/4. What about Sabathia? He gave up 5 runs. Are you worried about him? Is he "shaky" as of now? If they lose again tonight, are we worried that they're not able to beat Boston?

    And you said before that you think that bat is Hairston. No way. Thames and Winn are both better bets. So the bench is better than last year.

    More importantly, that scenario you mentioned accounts for a total of nine games over the course of the season.

    So what you are apparently saying is that you don't think the Yankees did a good enough job constructing their roster for those nine games.

    If that's not the definition of a minor quibble, I don't know what is.
     

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