Jets QB Sanchez woos Marshall with birthday call?

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  1. gustoonarmy

    gustoonarmy 2006-2007 TGG.com Best International Poster of the

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    He is, same mould as Heinz Ward, but with more speed (I think).
    Hes the kind of WR that DBs hate to play against, gives as good as he gets, like Ward.
     
  2. CatoTheElder

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    It works in a run-and-shoot offense and ones styled like a run-and-shoot like in Arizona. The Jets are still a run-first, ground-and-pound team. Having Edwards and Marshall on the same team only makes sense if you're throwing the ball 15+ yards down the field on every other play, not if you're running the ball 3 times in a row.

    Yea, Marshall is strong and a hell of a down the field blocker but it's a complete waste of talent if that is all he is doing, especially when Cotchery and Smith have proven to be good-to-great run blockers in their own right, and much cheaper options than the contract extension Marshall will have to agree to before his trade and the contract extension that Edwards is going to play his ass off for during this season.
     
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    I agree with this 100%. I can only see Marshall hurting the team with his bullshit antics. It's naive for us to believe he'll act any differently here in NY.
     
  4. MBGreen

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    Arizona ran with two #1 wideouts for the last 5 years or so.....i don't disagree with you about Marshall's past problems.....but using Edwards as a reason to not bring in Marshall isn't a good argument.
     
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    Hines, man. Hines.
     
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    That's my perspective on it as well.. Maybe they'll pull some prima donna bullshit but then you cut ties with the under-performer.. And I'm not exactly convinced Edwards is a true number one. He had one great season three years ago.
     
  7. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Arizona had a multiple league MVP and one-time Super Bowl MVP in Kurt Warner throwing the ball to Fitzgerald and Boldin, not a sophomore QB who threw 20 INTs the year prior Sanchez is still learning how to read the defense and throw the ball in the NFL. Expecting him to jump from his rookie year's performance to something matching Warner's skill set, a major requirement for the vertical offense that the Cardinals ran, is ridiculous. Sanchez needs to learn when not throw down the field before he could be given the reins to an offense like Arizona's.
     
  8. CatoTheElder

    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    How about that?
     
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    Fuck Ketchup man I like Catsup....
     
  10. MBGreen

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    Warner was bagging groceries right before he was handed the reins to Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce & Ricky Proehl.

    C'mon Cato....you're better than this.

    Edit: You make it sound like Sanchez is this scared little boy...who couldn't handle getting the keys to a Ferrari.
     
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    CatoTheElder 2009 Comeback Poster of the Year

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    Actually, Warner was working as a graduate assistant at Northern Iowa while he was stocking shelves at a supermarket, a job he held for, ohh, about 3 weeks, max. Then he was picked up by the Arena League's Iowa Barnstormers and played there for 3 seasons, followed by another season in NFL Europe on the Admirals before he made the team with the Rams. That's roughly 3 and a half seasons of development as a player with significant playing time and one season as a coach, learning from other coaches. Why don't you try actually researching these players before you throwing out bull crap you read from chain e-mails or get from oversimplified stories via Dick Enberg.

    As for Sanchez: 12 games at USC + 18 games with the Jets = 30 games as a starter since leaving high school. He's not ready to rip the ball down the field like he's Warner or Manning in their MVP years.
     
  12. Miamipuck

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    OK let me get this straight..... You are going on record to say that Warner went directly from bagging groceries to being a league MVP?

    No learning, no sitting the bench, no being the back up.

    Just a smooth transition from "Kurt, I need a clean up in aisle 9" to the "Greatest Show on Turf"?

    Just to be clear........
     
  13. MBGreen

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    Wow...the Barnstormers program must be pretty fuckin' awesome. :rolleyes:
     
  14. MBGreen

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    no, Puck.....Warner cut his teeth in the Iowa Barnstormers program....he was ready for anything after that.
     
  15. CatoTheElder

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    Competitive AFL franchise or not, that's at least three years of playing time Warner got between coaching college kids and the Greatest Show on Turf. What makes more sense:
    -Kurt Warner gets cut from the Packers, stocks shelves in an Iowa super market, suddenly becomes the starter of the Rams thanks to an injury, wins Super Bowl.
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    -Kurt warner gets cut from Packers, takes job to stay afloat, leaves job after a few weeks to GA for a college team, plays for three years in the AFL and improves his game, plays in NFLE and improves his game, sits behind Steve Bono and Tony Banks, starts for Rams.

    Are you trying to tell me that 4 seasons of developmental play mean absolutely nothing?
     
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    Lol you simplistic little Canadian, he also sat the bench for at least a season after that.
     
  17. Miamipuck

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    Uh yeah he is...........lol
     
  18. MBGreen

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    no..what i'm trying to tell you is that Sanchez has made strides in his rookie year...he's obviously not Kurt Warner yet (even though Warner is no stranger to turning the ball over, but that's another conversation)....but he's not retarded either. Adding another elite wideout to his weapons arsenal would further his development. You're saying that Sanchez needs to learn when NOT to throw it down field....i'm pretty sure he's progressed past that point.
     
  19. CatoTheElder

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    Twenty interceptions - including two games of three picks, one game of four picks, and one game of 5 picks - beg to differ.

    He still needs to learn how to pick-and-choose his throws and check down to his HBs. Unless Marshall is coming out of the backfield on every play, running no more than 5 yards down the field, I doubt he can do much aside from reinforce the problems Sanchez already had.
     
  20. Rockefella

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    You turn football into a complex mathermatical equation sometimes.

    He CAN'T be good because he is only a sophomore!! Everyone knows a player only gets good in his 4th year but WAIITTTTT on his 30th birthday he will get bad immediately.

    People, brains, bodies, and situations are all different. In all fairness I don't expect Sanchez to have his best year in his 2nd season, but that doesn't automatically disqualify him from having a 30td/10int season.
     

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