PFT: Leon Washington market could heat up soon

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  1. MadBacker Prime

    MadBacker Prime THE Dead Rabbit

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    Power??

    We are going to rely more and Sanchez this year and use more finesse.

    Greene was explosive out of the backfield, but whether we are power or finesse not many players can do what Leon does.

    He has great hands, and elusive speed, I want him to stay and stay for a while.
     
  2. sec314

    sec314 Well-Known Member

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    That's right. I hope that explains it to those of you who don't get it. I don't want to lose Leon but if someone is crazy enough to give him a 3 year, 20 million contract and us 2nd rd. pick, then so be it. If not, then I hope he comes back 100% healthy. We are in a win/win siutation
     
  3. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Where did you hear that? Link? I heard Rex say the offense would be more balanced, but I never heard him utter the word 'finesse'.
     
  4. MadBacker Prime

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    Throwing the ball more, running to create more pass options is finesse.

    Motioning Leon out and running him 2o yards down field on a pass play is a finesse move, at least in my opinion.

    As of now we have no powerback anyway, Shonn is a hybrid.
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    No way. The Jets will run the ball to control the tempo of the game. It's what this team does.

    Sanchez isn't going to thrown fly patterns to Washington.

    Just because Shonn Greene broke off a few long runs last year doesn't mean he's a balanced running back. The guy is a power runner, plain and simple. He's a between the tackles guy that has incredible vision.
     
  6. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Throwing the ball more creates balance. Your post seemed to be implying that the Jets were abandoning a power running aspect to their game. There has been no report of that at all. If anything, letting TJ go is making the Jets' running game LESS about finesse, since that was his style of running.

    BTW, Shonn Greene is a power back. He may have a second gear, but that does not change his running style at all. Power back.
     
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  7. bojanglesman

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    I don't think they are dumping salaries so much as players who don't live up to their upcoming salaries. I don't think they are getting rid of anyone that is great simply because they can't afford them. Rhodes was playing like an average safety, but with the attitude of a top tier one. Jones showed evidence of wearing down and they feel they are dumping him at a point where his skills will only diminish.

    I think Rhodes doesn't fit Rex's style. Jones does, but he's a tire with thin treads- a flat tire waiting to happen....... soon.
     
  8. RedWhiteBlue&Green

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    No, they are indeed dumping salaries. They are worried about the costs of the new stadium and they are worried about what next season's salaries are going to look like.

    They are cutting salaries and getting rid of a lot of very good players who the Jets need to win a Super Bowl with.

    If some on here want to keep making excuses for what the Jets management is doing, that's their problem. But they are doing this only because of money. No other reason.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Thing is, people are making valid arguments for why the players are being let go, and you aren't making one for the dumping of salaries argument. You're just making an ignorant alarmist blanket argument that serves no real purpose. Color me shocked.
     
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    Would you care to be more specific about these "lot of very good players" who are being dismissed? The last time I checked, Thomas Jones and Jay Feely were not "a lot of very good players".

    If this were truly just about saving some money, you'd see a hell of a lot more cuts than just Thomas Jones and Lito Sheppard.
     
  11. bojanglesman

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    We'll be fine without Rhodes. They do need to replace him, but they can do that. Jones can also be replaced by the many good RBs in the draft. Feely is a good, solid kicker, (and a good guy) but certainly not irreplaceable. Plus we may sign him back anyway. We'll see about Washington. I don't really care either way on whether he stays or goes as long as he doesn't stay at a ridiculous price.
     
  12. RedWhiteBlue&Green

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    This is from the NY Post today: "By unloading Rhodes, RB Thomas Jones and CB Lito Sheppard, the Jets dumped more than $20 million in 2010 salary in an uncapped year, fueling speculation they might be tightening the purse strings because of the labor uncertainty and the costs of the new stadium."

    What are they, quoting me?!

    I state an opinion, you call me ignorant. I find it funny how people, like you, attack others for stating their opinion, because you don't feel the same.
     
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    Rhodes was also hardly expensive for his position. In fact, the Cardinals looked at it as a cash SAVING move. Good luck to anyone trying to prove he was a salary dump.
     
  14. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    You want to forget that we have quite a few players with contracts expiring in 2011 that the Jets WILL need to win the SB. Thomas Jones, Lito and Feely (and don't get me wrong I like Feely) may have been good role players but none of them are superstars. It's not we traded away Harris or Mangold.

    You wanna talk about dumping salary...look at the Cardinals. They lost arguably 4 of their 5 best players this offseason and all they did was bring in Kerry Rhodes. They didn't even attempt tobring back Dansby or Rolle.
     
  15. RedWhiteBlue&Green

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    Hey why don't we throw in some other players? It seems like everybody is replaceable. What about Sanchez? We can draft another QB that may have some potential. What about Revis? Surely we can find another corner to compliment Cromartie. Hey, why don't we just get rid of all of our running backs, Jones, Washington AND Greene? We can draft a couple new ones and sign a decent back-up RB.

    Yeah, I know, I'm exaggerating, but that's what I feel the team is doing. We're not the Pittsburgh Pirates that worries about salaries. We're not the Florida Marlins that dumps half the team, after it's won a championship. But we're acting like it. At least, Woody is.

    We got to the final 4 last season. This season we were supposed to go farther -- except we're unfortunately going backwards.
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    The New York Post? Really? Are you going to quote the National Enquirer next? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    That is a tabloid rag, and always has been.
     
  17. RedWhiteBlue&Green

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    Hey, that's their problem. They're in Arizona, where they expect to lose. This is New York. You know it's a little different here. And without a cap, come on. We're talking about a town where the Mets and Yankees spend like crazy every year to win. If there's no cap, you gotta expect the Jets and Giants to go all out. Why is it good for the Mets and Yankees but not good for the football teams. It's the same popularity, right? Maybe even more popular for the NY fans.

    I don't think I'm saying anything that insane here. I'm a New Yorker. I expect to win.

    I hate it when people say the same old Jets. Now's an opportunity to shed that label big time. There is no cap. Stop spending like there is.
     
  18. Barry the Baptist

    Barry the Baptist Hello son, would you like a lolly?
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    You just killed your own argument by mentioning Cromartie. Did you forget that we added a pro bowl caliber CB? Any team more concerned with dumping salary wouldn't have upgraded at the CB position would they?

    I think you've got Woody confused with Hess. Woody wants a winner and he wants to be on the back page. He wants to upstage the Giants all the time because he wants the Jets to be the best team in NY.

    By dumping a RB on the downside of his career (he's visiting KC and Detroit so it's not like teams are banging down his door) . An overrated safety who OBTW we got 2 draft picks for and a CB who clearly lost a step (remember he was benched in the AFCG) I don't see how that translates to penny pinching and being concerned about the stadium. Woody knows the only way he sells tickets is by winning. Your not gonna win by pinching pennies.
     
  19. nyjunc

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    Those are guys that could help us this year and could still be off the books by next year so it doesn't affect those other players re-signing.
     
  20. bojanglesman

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    Once again, who have we released or traded so far that is vital to our team and can't be replaced with a younger, better, version?
     

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