PFT: Leon Washington market could heat up soon

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  1. xmscott

    xmscott Well-Known Member

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    As much i love Leon im not against taking a second for him.

    D. Woody was on NFL Radio the other day. Said he was working out with Leon. Would love to know where he is at physically right now. Love to keep him, not scared to lose him.
     
  2. crackbillionair

    crackbillionair New Member

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    ^^^^^

    Agreed. Everyone loves Leon, but he has given us his best years. We can not be sentimal. A # 2 this year is a score. Imagine someone else likes Brad Smith? How sick would that be? A 2nd rouder for a gimmick player? We'd be stocked for this coming year with 3 second round draft choices.
     
  3. ace_o_spades

    ace_o_spades New Member

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    Yeah but let's be realistic....nobody is gonna give a 2nd rounder to a WR that can't catch. Yeah, he's a good gimmick/gadget/ST player but nobody is gonna part with a 2 for him....not in this draft
     
  4. GG2000

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    I was going by Yards per Game. So considering his career YPG ...

    Arizona (2000-2002) - 26.6, 23.8, 56.8
    Tampa Bay (2003) - 39.2
    Chicago (2004-2006) - 67.7, 89.0, 75.6
    NY Jets (2007-2009) - 69.9, 82.0 , 87.6

    ... I think that I could make the argument that his body of work in the last six seasons were the product of playing behind better offensive lines. In fact, his three worst YPGs came during his first four seasons.

    So (using TB 2003) while YPC would indicate how productive he was when given the ball (4.6 YPC), in the end he only averaged 39 YPG, the third-worst YPG of his career.

    Now (again using TB 2003) you could counter that the relatively low 8.6 carries per game that year were a result of the play calling or having to share carries with Michael Pittman, though to me, YPG is the more pertinent stat. YMMV, of course ... Peace.
     
  5. Phear

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    wow, some of you should introduce weed into your lives< lol jk but really....if we can get a 2nd for leon, it should be a no brainer to take it. we do not know how he will be after this injury and our running game did just fine without him involved.
     
  6. Kaiser

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    We've got Leon 2.0 in Brad Smith.

    He's taller, and he can throw the ball; so, in some ways you can make the argument that he's better. Sure, he's not that elusive, explosive player that Leon is, but he's good enough to let Leon walk for a second rounder.

    You can almost guarantee that if Leon walks, Tanny will re-sign Jones, and pick up a young guy via Free Agency/Late Draft
     
  7. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Sounds like the Jets are running the whole show.

    What if Thomas Jones signs somewhere today or tomorrow? How can the Jets resign him then?

    I don't think the team is banking on TJ unless they themselves are going to do this soon.

    I think the 2nd round tender is a reach the Jets put on Leon, knowing that no team will give it to them. They are banking that Leon will be back and hopefully can up his worth in 2010.
     
  8. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    The second round tender is the best way for the Jets to go with Leon.

    All it basically does is help set the Market price....And if someone wants to overpay for him (unlikely) that's life.

    But any realistic deal, the Jets can match and then Leon knows he's getting as much as he could have gotten.
     
  9. Don

    Don 2008 TGG Rich Kotite "Least Knowledgeable" Award W

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    He will never get more than 5 mil a year from anybody else post ankle. The thing is he won't get it ever again from the Jets either. The day he turned down that offer was the day this whole process started in motion. Talk about somebody who should have fired their agent....
     
  10. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Peopl are just way too quick to throw away talent for draft picks that COULD lead to talent. I think some people enjoy the draft more than the games. I don't get it. The point of the draft is so you can pick guys like Leon and here we are basically wanting to throw him away for another pick.
     
  11. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    It's not about the salary, it's about the guaranteed money.
     
  12. 101GangGreen101

    101GangGreen101 2018 Thread of the Year Award Winner

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    Hey man getting that extra 2nd rounder could help us get a player like Eric Berry
     
  13. ScotsJet

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    IIRC, the problem with the offer to Leon was that his agent wanted the new money to start in 2009 and the Jets wanted it to kick in for this coming season.
     
  14. WhiteShoeWillis

    WhiteShoeWillis Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember reading anything discussing specifics of the contract that was offered or anything about guaranteed money being the issue.
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm not really a college fan, so I've been late to the party looking at a lot of these draft prospects - but from what I've seen of Gerhart, I'd love to see him in our backfield. I see Mike Alstott when I watch his highlights.
     
  16. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It's really not that big of a gamble here. The only way they don't keep Leon is if some team is willing to make a completely outrageous contract offer, and also give up a 2nd round pick in the deepest draft in a decade.

    I don't see how so many Jets fans on this board don't understand this. It's not like they're cutting Leon here.
     
  17. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Bullshit. Not only did the Jets build a pretty damn good run-blocking O-line, but they installed a lot of zone blocking schemes to go with the speed of that line. Denver did the same thing for years, and they got 1000 yards out of every Tom, Dick and Haerry they put back there.

    But when they had a great one - Terrell Davis - they won 2 Super Bowls. That is no coincidence.
     
  18. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Not possible:

    http://nfllabor.com/nfl-calendar/

    April 15 — Deadline for signing of Offer Sheets of Restricted Free Agents.
    April 21 — Deadline for old club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.
    April 22-24 — NFL Draft, New York City.
     
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  19. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    And all they'd have to do is avoid paying their HOF quarterback. I don't think the Pats are going to go on a spending spree any more than any other team not named the Bears.
     
  20. Jersey Joe 67

    Jersey Joe 67 Well-Known Member

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    I find it curious that in an uncapped year the Jets are dumping salaries like they need to get under the cap.Is this just because Rex had 1 year to see what these players were about and is now shedding the players he feels don't fit his type of play, ala Rhodes?
    The one thing that i think isn't being considered in this whole LW thing is his ST play. We suffered terribly in the return game when he went down and we have to consider that it may take 2 players to replace him.
     

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