If tanny has the opportunity to grab Thomas around 11-12, I think he makes the move and jumps up to get him. If we add him to our secondary, we could have the nastiest group of DB's in the league. I just wonder what it would take to drop down from 29 to 11? Rex would turn this guy into a pro bowler in no time. With his dynamic and exotic blitz's, he would give his tons of opporunities to make plays
Jumping to 11 wed only have to give up on depth completely. Probably our first second and 5th. I dont wanna see any jumping up
With our picks, we only have enough on the point system to make it to 16. We would need to find someone who was desperate to trade out of 9-12.
As much as I am a fan of "Bringing on the Ditka"......that would probably cripple the depth of this team for the forseeable future.....so i don't see us trading up in the 1st round.
I was thinking a jelly doughnut topped with fried eggs, ham, bacon, Cheese, and then another jelly doughnut. He's lobbying for the McDonal's near training camp to carry them in orders of 20 or more.
I really hope Taylor Mays puts on some ridiculous pro day performance, because if Earl Thomas does end up being the third safety off the board, its very conceivable that he could be there in the mid to late 20s. It'll be interesting to see where these two go, because they're complete polar opposites. Mays' numbers are off the charts, but he didn't perform all that well in college. His 40 time was incredible, but he just doesn't have the corresponding range, so whats it worth? Thomas on the other hand is a great player with unimpressive measurables. A trade up just really feels like a bad move, though. For example, I'd rather have Chad Jones or Kam Chancellor, than Earl Thomas and no second round pick.
we need to be as interested in atogwe/bethea as we were with cromartie if we dont think its possible of landing earl thomas in the draft
Mason, I have read all of your 11 post, and I can't think of a bigger troll on TGG right now. You criticize Pete Carroll as a coach who doesn't know how to utilize a great player because he is a FS and his scheme calls for him to be out of position? That whole argument is all puffery, fluff, and stupidity. A lot of Mays discussion made me do my own research of him and watch a lot of game film on him (or what I could find anyways). I know according to you, watching game film of a player isn't a good way to evaluate players because you can always find "1-2 bad plays of even Ed Reed to make him look bad." So after spending a few hours of my (and my employers) time, I pretty much came up with the same answers about May's playing style that everyone has said. We all know his physical attributes are off the wall, but he relies on them completely and that won't cut it in the NFL. You can be the fastest guy on the planet, but if you're taking bad angles it doesn't mean jack. And no, Carroll's scheme did not call for him to be out of position, I can't believe you even thought of that as a rational thought. He does have the potential to lay on big time hits. But once again, he is always out of position so it doesn't give him an opportunity. Plus when he gets to the carrier he goes for a shoulder tackle probably 75 percent of the time, fails to wrap up 15 percent of the time, and has the right tackling technique maybe 10 percent of the time. He just looks lost out there to everyone but you because you seem to have some footage of this guy nobody has seen. I just noticed in another thread Mr. E posted a video with a great breakdown of May's play, but it seems that's when you decided to not be apart of the debate anymore. You came to the Earl Thomas thread instead to continue your troll love for Mays. Why are you a troll? Because you have no evidence to support your argument, and attempt to thwart other peoples views by just saying "you're misinformed" "you should watch more May game film" "I could edit a film to make Ed Reed look bad" with no facts to back anything you are saying up. I think everyone can see your M.O. here dude, so just get outta here. On a further note, you keep on referring to scheme this and scheme that, and I am pretty convinced you have no idea what you are talking about and are just trying to salvage your point. So I would like you to go into a little more depth on that subject because it is the closest thing you have to making a decent point, but like I said I don't think you have any clue.
Definitely, but they don't have to cover as much ground. To me, Taylor Mays is a developmental project. He's not polished enough to start on a team right away.
I think I'd be comfortable drafting Taylor Mays with our second round pick, which is obviously moot. The thing about Mays... the modern NFL is stacked against him. I too love the Brian Dawkins' and the John Lynch's of the NFL, but the fact of the matter is that the NFL is evolving (sadly) away from the hard-hitting safety. A nasty hit on a wide out going across the middle is going to draw a flag more often than not. That sucks, but it's reality. If what you do best is going out of style big time, you're kinda screwed. Look at Roy Williams pre-, post- horse collar rule.