Alio's Kick Ass Program

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  1. 1028

    1028 Active Member

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    I'm considering switching from conventional deads to sumo. Does this mean I'm gay?
     
  2. Scikotic

    Scikotic Banned

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    Your gayness has nothing to do with your previous statement. :smile:
     
  3. GQMartin

    GQMartin Go 'Cuse

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    Just bought a new treadmill...I'm excited to start using it.

    Sears installs it on Monday.
     
  4. silent scream

    silent scream Well-Known Member

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    What's the difference in terms of muscle recruitment? Is sumo less quad, more hams/glutes?

    And you're only gay if you don't squat deep. Wow that sounded pretty gay too.
     
  5. pats-hater

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    I have had no issues with a standing non-"machine" bent row.

    If you're hurting your back, there is a good chance you are not in the correct form (you may be in the correct form, though)..

    If you're bowing your back out, and not keeping your back in a negative arch; you will have lower back issues with higher weights.

    I am getting tired of the rows though.
     
  6. pats-hater

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    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss5SuopztW4[/YOUTUBE]

    I can't see how using that machine is a real bent row. The distance you are lifting or pulling the bar is not the same. Maybe that's why it's better for your back?
     
  7. 1028

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    Sumo just increases lower body involvement, period. It's notoriously hard on your hips especially... which is nice, because I feel as if I could definitely benefit from some work in that area. Conversely, conventional increases lower (and upper) back involvement. It's nice to have a strong lower back, and conventional has given me some nice meat on my upper back that I don't know if I would have gained otherwise... but I guess it's a give and take situation.

    For me, its moreso a case of body mechanics. I've come to the realization that I have very stumpy arms, which probably explains my awesome bench, and total failure as a technically sound (conventional) deadlifter. Proper posture is becoming and more of a nuisance as time goes on for me, and I'd rather just skirt the issue altogether than try to compensate for my shitty leverages. Oh well.
     
  8. Scikotic

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    You just got ripped off. Go for a run, already...
     
  9. 1028

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    Gonna start a pretty drastic cut beginning Easter-ish (April 4). :)

    I'll be lifting my balls off these next 5-6 weeks to make the most of the remainder of my bulk, though.
     
  10. AlioTheFool

    AlioTheFool Spiveymaniac

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    I've been lazy on and off since Christmas. This week is my comeback week. I've gained a few pounds and lost quite a bit of strength, but I'm back on track again as of today. Unfortunately, it's one more day of leftovers for lunch, but starting tomorrow I'll be back to salad. I picked up my lifting this morning again. I'm really disappointed with myself, but I'll be fine quickly. I'm still in decent shape, and I was able to lift about where I was before I slacked off these past couple weeks.
     
  11. pats-hater

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    I'm in the same boat as you. I have been going to the gym but haven't gotten in 3 straight weeks since Turkey Day.

    I also hurt my back doing endless squats so I'm on the leg press for a while.

    Need to get back to the cardio, I've been lifting for strength and ignoring my need for cardio. As soon as it gets warmer, it will be much easier. I can ride my bike to work and back again (16 miles R/T).

    Planning on moving on and getting going again today.
     
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    Back from the gym and feeling good and sore.

    Going for the gold this time. I really need to make this work. I need to get healthy ASAP.
     
  13. Yisman

    Yisman Newbie
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    I work out at the gym twice a week and I'm trying to eat healthy (no soda, very little juice, snacking on carrots, etc.), but I can't seem to lose weight.
     
  14. AlioTheFool

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    Unless you're doing cardio those other days you're not boosting your metabolism at all. You might gain some strength if you're really pushing it at the gym, but there's no way two days of gym work is going to get your body burning fuel.

    It's good you don't consume sugary drinks, but what are you eating at meals? You mentioned snacking on carrots, but didn't say anything about what else you're consuming.
     
  15. jaywayne12

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    Ok ATF....Lets get to the point..I have been watching a little too much weather channel and not eating right at all.

    Without going through 34 pages..have you changed the initial workout that you started on page 1? Whats a good diet...give it to me in a nutshell...thanks!
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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    Dude....When I'm ON....I workout 5X a week. Eat less calories than I consume. Do intense cardio 40 minutes a workout. Am strong as an ox.

    And still have trouble shedding pounds.

    Up the workload.
     
  17. Hobbes3259

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    P.S. those of us that have fallen off since the holiday season should have a

    'I'm a PU$$*, but I'm trying not to be' support group...lol

    (I blew up like a F8ng balloon since August)
     
  18. silent scream

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    I would sign up for fitday.com. It's free and is a pretty easy way to track your calories/macros throughout the day.

    Once you do that multiply your weight by 15. This is about your basal metabolic rate - you need to consume under that amount of calories to lose weight. Shoot for a daily defecit of about 20-25% and you will lose weight.
     
  19. InChadWeTrust

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    Hahaha. Looks like everyone has fallen off the wagon (including yours truly).

    Whadya say we keep this thread going in the first page of the BS forum? That is, lets keep each other posted on our progress ;)
     
  20. AlioTheFool

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    Hahaha, yeah, it seems everyone has had a tough time this year. I wonder if the ridiculous weather has had any effect that no one has realized? I know I've been home and lazy far too many times this year already.

    Jaywayne, you can absolutely use the original stuff I posted. It's still valid.

    Right now, I'm getting back into the routine I'd been using for about a year.

    Breakfast: Yogurt with half a scoop of vanilla protein powder and a chopped banana mixed in.
    Lunch: Salad (lettuce, cucumber, tomato, feta, chopped chicken breast, mushroom, asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, avocado. Balsamic vinegar and olive oil with some mustard powder mixed in for dressing.)
    Dinner: varies. Mostly meals involving chicken breast, but practically anything goes for dinner.

    Mon, Wed, Fri: pushups, situps, bicep curls, dips, overhead press with dumbbells, squats, and bent rows.
    Tues, Thurs: 10-20 minutes (depending how much time I have in the morning) on the Gazelle (much better than an elliptical.)
    1 weekend day: 30 minutes on Gazelle, plus the same workout I would do on M/W/F but double the reps.

    I may have to boost the cardio for a few weeks to drop a couple pounds before I settle back in, but that's basically my current plan. It's not phenominal, but it's adequate.
     

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