He's either a troll or one of those who annoying pessimists who deem themselves a "realist". Or a Dolphins fan.
The question marks around Matthews are his durability and whether he is just a 'straight line' runner. I don't think it's an accurate description but if all you've done is read scouting reports the Thomas Jones comparison isn't that far off.
Durability and receiving ability should be his only question marks. Ryan Mathews is very shifty for a back his size. The guy is a one-cut runner that is deadly in the open field.
As evidenced by your response, you're clearly a relatively young person with at least a mildly over-inflated confidence and belief in your knowledge and expertise which is typical, of course, with the young and inexperienced. You're entitled to your opinions, of course, such as they are...... Bush is not, nor will he ever be remotely near anything great as a football player. Any insistence to the contrary suggests blatant partiality if not an utter absence of objective assessment in the context of relevant football knowledge and awareness. While Bush has the better hands of the two, that is the only advantage he possesses. Bush is not nearly as good a running back at the NFL level or running after the catch in space as Leon is, period. Naturally, you are free to believe and argue otherwise if you so desire but doing so shall only serve to diminish the level football knowledge credibility you undeniably devote so much of your time and effort in proclaiming and, in numerous cases such as this, less than politely defending. You're a very knowledgeable, bright, earnest young man who does more than a considerable amount of football related homework. However, simply because someone may be smarter or more educated or stronger or wealthier than most does not justify rude, intolerant or abusive behavior towards others just because they may be (or you simply perceive them to be) less intelligent, less educated, weaker or poorer than you are. That's bullying behavior and bullies are only pussies with brains, brawn and/or bucks. A very smart guy like you will get much further in life with a little more humility and tolerance of those who don't necessarily meet your own elevated "standards."
Thanks for the the paragraphs this time...and also, thanks for trying to sound educated. I love how you call me young and inexperienced, yet I know way more than you about this game. I will completely fucking destroy you in any kind of debate about football. I'm over confident in that. Give me a break, old man. This is a message board. There's no such thing as humility and tolerance...especially towards those who don't know what they're talking about.
You have no idea whatsoever as to the extent of my knowledge so for you to even attempt to make comparative remarks such as you have is further evidence of your general immaturity and lack of experience, be it in football or the real world. Again, you should try to let your "knowledge" stand on its own declarative merits rather than toot your plastic kazoo horn like Chicken Little amped up on Red Bull and amphetamines while tethered to an electrified fence. Its just plain silly and does disservice to your credibility. I won't engage in Special Olympics Internet debate with anyone much less someone who feels he has so much to "prove," either to himself or his forum mates. Suffice to say that last year I ranked Shonn Greene as one of the top backs in the draft whereas if memory serves me correctly, your "expert and beyond reproach opinion" of Greene had him as prospect of limited utility and upside other than possible future situational use as a short yardage or goal line back.
This is the internet. Maturity and experience don't matter. I'll let my two straight draft guru awards do the talking for me.
What the shit are you smoking? Reggie Bush is the most overrated, over-hyped RB in the league, ATM. You're attempting to compare a RB whose been put in a spread, pass-happy offense, playing with one of the best QBs in the league (since day one), to one who's played in balanced offenses with a busted-up Pennington / Clemens + rookie QB two of his four seasons in the league. You also fail to note that Washington is almost never asked to play the slot (so how can we claim he can't play it?) or that he was injured most of last season (so how do stats compared fairly?). And please don't mention the Cardinals game. Reggie Bush is a game changer on occasion; Leon does it much more consistently.
I know this is someone else's beef, but it must be said: you sound like a arrogant d***. I'll let you two have at it now.
...because he can't play in the slot. Reggie Bush has missed games too. Like NDmick said, Bush is the more dynamic player. That was my entire point. Dude, the poster I was replying to was being a moron. Telling me that I'm inexperienced and young on a message board isn't a valid argument. ...saying that he knows more than I do, in a forum that me and few other posters keep alive throughout the year, is just flat out stupid.
You continue to arrogantly flout your so called knowledge (or accompanying lack thereof) like some unimpeachable badge of honor, not unlike the old Europeans who insisted the world was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth. 1. What evidence do you have that Leon cannot play the slot? Simply because he has not been utilized there to any significant extent or is that just your "expert" opinion? 2. Bush is not, nor will he ever be a more dynamic player than Washington. Period. Your insistence otherwise is further evidence of either a bias, a stubborn lack of perception or a vain unwillingness to accept and admit you are wrong (as was also apparently the case for your short sighted and incongruous player evaluation of Shonn Greene last year). 3. First and foremost, this site is a meeting place for Jets fans and would never be classified through any qualified analysis or objective measure as a jury or panel of NFL experts unless, of course, one wishes to luxuriate in delusions of grandeur which is evidently a proclivity on your part as demonstrated by your citing of your consecutive "awards" as though they have any more actual merit or value than a fake I.D. purchased from the back of a comic book. Presenting these "awards" as though they are some legitimate actual validation or official sanction of knowledge and expertise is pretty hilarious if not downright embarrassing, particularly since you're wont to disparage the opinions of so many herein who represent your sanctioning body for whatever awards you have received (congratulations, btw). Your behavior is not unlike those guys who walk around with fake police or detective badges pretending to be the "law" in some sort of official way. :rofl:. In fact, when I read a number of your posts, your behavior often reminds me of another bright and well known young character better known as Eric Cartman,.... particularly as he demands that all the world "respect his authoritah" as he patrols his domain on his Big Wheel mounted with police lights. Mr. Electric Cartman, indeed...... Unless you are preparing for a career as a professional scout, you might do well to step away from your computer a bit and venture out into the new and exciting world of the opposite sex and/or playing some sports yourself instead of watching (and grading others) doing so. Finally, I never said I was smarter than you (or anyone else for that matter). While I may be inclined to disagree with the opinions of others at various times, I don't call such people stupid or morons or whatever other childish or insulting terms you feel reflect proper forum or internet protocol. Further evidence again of your youth and inexperience. As you are so inclined to point out what you perceive to be errors in form, you might want to reassess and ameliorate your own levels of reading comprehension.
I think it's funny that you accuse someone of being an arrogant prick by sounding like an arrogant prick.
You'll always be older and more experienced than I am...I get it. It still doesn't change the fact that Reggie Bush is more talented and more versatile than Leon Washington. It's a fact. If Leon Washington could play in the slot, he would've played there already.
It was actually arrogant d***. I don't understand what's so bad about type the word dick? What do you think about this, NDick?
The only fact here is that you could not be much more wrong (except, of course, in your pre-draft analysis of Shonn Greene).
Altoona, take your shit somewhere else. This thread is about Ryan Mathews. Stop bitching and derailing the thread. To get back on topic: Ryan Mathews had 19 reps in the bench press drill. I'm looking forward to see him run the 40 tomorrow.