It would appear that you might be even more inclined to overrate Reggie Bush than the Jets fans whom you accuse of such tendencies with Leon Washington. Bush, by all objective measure, has failed to even remotely approach much less meet his pre-Draft expectations. While he was undoubtedly one of the most exciting and spectacular players coming out of college, he can be safely classified as a bust based on those overly optimistic expectations and his draft position. In addition to being extremely fragile, his "game" has failed to translate effectively to the NFL level and although he has been pretty effective as a receiver (be it out of the backfield or off the line) his level of production should be even further discounted by virtue of where he has had the opportunity to play the past four seasons. By every "objective" measure, Leon is a superior football player to Bush and I mean that not only in terms of return ability or as a running back but also as receiver. While Bush's receiving yardage totals are greater than Leon's, his averages are not and I have little doubt that if LW had been in NO the past 4 years that one of the Saints' primary offseason priorities would be the resigning of LW as opposed the the reality of the current situation with Bush whereby the near unanimous consensus is that he will be given his walking papers. As far as Spiller is concerned, he may very well turn out to be the real deal (which Bush was not and never will be) but, as always, the ultimate proof lies in the prospects' actual NFL performance.
What is this garbage? This is a giant block of shit that no one wants to read. I'm not overrating Bush at all. Sure, he hasn't lived up to being the #2 overall pick, but he's shown flashes of greatness. Watch the playoff game against the Cardinals, and you'd see what I'm talking about. Leon Washington is not better than Reggie Bush, especially as a receiver...and he's less versatile. You do not understand. Washington cannot play in the slot like Bush can. That's where things change. This average yards per catch thing you're talking about is all wrong. Washington doesn't catch nearly as many passes as Bush, so of course his average will be a little higher. Both Bush and Washington have 4 career return TDs. Bush doesn't return kicks, but he's one of the best punt returners in the game. You can attempt to tell me that Washington is a better receiver than Bush when he catches 88 passes in a season. Washington: 19 career TDs Bush: 32 career TDs Reggie Bush has had close to 200 more total touches, but still...
If he falls to 29, it's definitely a possibility...especially if Thomas Jones isn't brought back. He's the perfect compliment to Greene and Washington. I really believe he'll succeed in this league if he's drafted by a team that doesn't run him into the ground. Mathews will more than likely be the BPA if he's there at 29. I think I would shoot fireworks inside of my apartment if the Jets drafted this kid. I'd much rather go after a corner or another position of "need" - but in my opinion, Mathews is too good to pass on.
I would love that BUT does that really fill a need? there could definitely b a CB, DE, OLB, or even WR that would be a greater need. Id hafta see what happens after free agency but if the Jets concluded to do this i would be very happy.
If we ditch TJ this off-season, I'd love to see Mathews used exactly as Greene was last year. Let Leon and Greene carry the season and then hit December with some fresh, young, talented legs. I don't know if you can realistically use a first round pick in that capacity, though. It's one thing to have a third rounder learning on the bench, but especially at the running back position, teams want to see their dough on the field. (One of the reasons Reggie Bush's stats outweigh Leon's, IMO). I, for one, am convinced we need to hit 2010 with another young back. Mathews, Blount or Gerhart. ADDED: I think Charles Scott could be pretty effective in our system, too, if he stays healthy. If we could steal him in the fifth, I'd be pretty happy.
Unless he really has those numbers at the combine I don't think he is going to be in the first round, if he does workout by the numbers you suggested earlier like that I could see late first potential. Anyway, I could never ever see the Jets taking a third running back in the first round. If for whatever reason Washington signs a short term deal, one or two years which is easily cutable, then MAYBE and that's not a confident maybe we draft Matthews. But at the moment I cant see how we would draft a RB which is not one of our big needs.
Why not? He's the second best running back in this draft class. Teams like New England and San Diego really need help at running back.
I don't see how the Chargers who desperately need a running back now after cutting LT pass on either Spiller or Matthews. Then you have the Patriots..whom could easily pick either one but part of me says they won't and they will stick with Maroney
I think Mathews will end up in San Francisco, San Diego, or New England. Fresno's head coach Pat Hill is very good friends with Bill Belichick. I've been thinking about this a lot since the Randy Moss news has been popping up lately. The Patriots could definitely go after a receiver in the first round. Tom Brady's had tons of success with smallish receivers like Golden Tate. I also think the Pats will stick with Larry Maroney and Kevin Faulk. They could definitely go after a big back like Anthony Dixon, LaGarrette Blount, or Toby Gerhart later in the draft though. They have a ton of picks.
Naturally but to spend a first round pick on a guy like Spiller/Matthews would be a very questionable decision IMO. Granted, they'd excel with this run heavy offense and line
If CJ Spiller fell to 29 and the Jets passed on him, the world would probably end. He's one of the most explosive players that I've ever seen. The guy has Reggie Bush-like receiving abilities. He'd be able fill a ton of holes on this team: slot receiver, spell back, and return specialist.
Agreed I really don't think Spiller will be there at 29 tho. For Spiller I meant trading up for him would be a bad idea since we're low on picks as is I like Matthews but I don't know if I'd take him at 29. If Lito ends up leaving (likely) there's some good CB prospects in the back end of the first round that I'd rather us take our chances on. Matthews would be great playing behind this line tho. Also, while on the subject of running backs...any chance Blount from Oregon might be around in the 4th round if he doesn't run well at the combine?
I've seen him play and I wasn't too impressed. He's basically another Thomas Jones, a guy who is a product of his line. He'll protect the ball and just run through the holes and that's about it.
...say what?!?!?! "That's about it" ??? Obviously you haven't fucking seen this kid play. A product of his fucking line? Are you serious? Before Mathews even suited up for Fresno State, he was a dominant ball carrier. As a senior in high school, he led the entire nation in rushing...playing quarterback. You do realize it's in his job description to protect the football and run through holes. You left out breaking off 50 and 60 yard runs almost in basically every game. 1,808 yards and 19 TDs in 11 and a half games is amazing production. ...and don't try to tell me that he didn't play in a big conference - he has ridiculous games against Wisconsin, Cincinnati, and Boise State.
Isn't that the job of a RB??? I've never seen any other NCAA football player break more big runs than Mathews and that's saying a lot. Your username says it all. This post is boderline trolling. I can tell you've never seen Mathew's play.
