TJ has had a good run, but I think his career is much more similar to Curtis, LT, Alexander, Edge, and other RBS who hit the wall after 30 because they were used so heavily for so long. Riggins never had 300 carries in a season until age 34, and up to that point had 7 seasons of less than 200 carries. At age 32, Ottis Anderson had 325 carries for the Giants in their Super Bowl run in 1989-90, but he had done nothing in the preceeding 4 years. Ottis was pretty ineffective after that one season. IMO, these late career aberrations are due to years of underutilization. While TJ was underused early in his career, he's been ridden really hard lately. For the past six years, TJ has averaged 297 carries and 30 receptions and hasn't missed a game in the last 4 years. At some point very soon, his numbers are going to nosedive. I think that point already came at the end of last season when his body appeared to break down. His leadership is certainly a plus, but ultimately that is going to come down to a business decision. The best he can hope for is that the Jets keep him around for one more year as a backup.
we cannot cut thomas jones In my opinion we must keep Jones. I think that Greene should be the starter next season, but Jones is a great insurance policy in case Greene gets hurt and can still be effective in a smaller role. I believe he has a 3 Million roster bonus, Woody should give him this as a reward for his hard work over the last three seasons. Jones also probably wouldn't draw a whole lot of interest on the open market so he'd probably be open to coming back. we are restricted in free agency as it is..the less holes we have the better
Agreed. Mostly because no one on this board is actually Mike Tannenbaum. If Jones can bring in a decent draft pick, good night and good luck.
We traded an early 2nd rounder for a late 2nd rounder and TJ. What the heck do you expect for us to get 3 years later? KEEP TJ! His leadership alone will be worth it! :jets:
There are plenty of leaders on the team. If he is not the best option to start for the Jets then he should not be payed like a starter for the Jets. Either he gets traded in a package for a 3rd or 4th round pick or he takes a pay cut. As of right now, Thomas Jones is not the best option to start for the Jets. He's a platoon player at best.
As good as he is he hasn't won shit, he comes from a team of chokers. Yeah cut TJ a leader and bring this guy in, no thank you. If the Jets are going to get/keep a washed up RB at least TJ is our own.
Agreed, the reason we got Bart Scott over Ray Lewis was because of what he brought to the table on the field and his younger age. Many people wanted Ray Lewis just to be a "leader" but look where our Front Office went. Bart Scott isn't a bad leader either though...
If "Leader" is the best quality that a player brings to the table, then that player should move on to coaching. Brian Russell kept getting a job due to his "leadership". Ask the Seahawks and Jaguars how that worked out.
Makes sense. LT is going to be riding a stationary bike for a good portion of next season. The reason I don't like Jones on the Jets anymore is because I think he is going to be riding a stationary bike for a good portion of next season, if only towards the end. Why bring in the same problem? He might cost less but you're still looking to replace one potential problem with the same potential problem. The Jets are going to need guys who can stay on the field.
When will people learn that this is a business? He deserves to get what ever he recieved thus far. That's it. If he stays, he deserves to get what the contract that HE signed gives him. If they cut him...tough shit. He knew that going into the deal. Quit with the "feel good, showing our appreciation" thought process when refering to contracts.
The Jets are not going to get jack shit trading TJ. Cutting him serves no purpose if to save money and somewhat weaken the team. blah The Jets at this point are in a rock and a hard place. Greene is not so much injury prone as much as his running style is. He is a talented enough back where he doesnt have to punish everyone every run. Don't get me wrong I love the style bit if he can change it a little bit great. This is why the Jets need TJ more than anything. You can not have Greene getting 300 plus carries. No freaking way he will last. If he lasts this year he will have a very short career.
We do not have one HB on this team who will survive next season with 300 carries. If TJ stays then he is going to have to max out at 250, and that is if the Jets CS doesn't give Sanchez more passing reps. The high number of carries has helped ruin TJ. The Jets need a new RB or we are going to be doing a lot of debating about whether or not Danny Woodhead/Chauncey Washington are being properly utilized by the CS.
Exactly. LT has been very injury prone the last few years. TJ not so much. Now if an injury derailed TJ great. If he is done not great. TJ started terrible got going strong and then fizzled. One thing is for sure the Jets do not have a guy that can handle 300 carries....... Edit: Cato beat me to it. I wanted to add that with the Jets running so damn much almost dictates one of the backs need to be a 300 carry back.