His height? Really? Wingspan is much more important then height, and Wilson has very, very long arms.
Since when does Wilson have long arms lol? His arm length of 30" is actually below the average for CB prospects this year. To put that into perspective, Revis had 32 3/8" when he was a prospect, which was one of the highest for CBs.
Every time you've bullshitted, I've proved you wrong and you've disappeared for a couple hours. Stay around this time, and when you reply to this post...let me know why Freddie Barnes wasn't a big time receiver at the college level and why Seyi Ajirotutu didn't put it all together at Fresno. Below average? If you're looking at the Senior Bowl measurements, then you probably saw that Patrick Robinson had a 30.5 inch wingspan, and Perrish Cox had a 30 inch wingspan. Robinson's your boy, right? Half an inch on his wingspan doesn't mean shit when Toast Robinson's vert is 33 inches, and Wilson's is 38.5. Just because you didn't have the privilege of seeing K-Dub play, doesn't mean you have to hate on the guy. He's the second best corner in the draft right, and everyone knows it...and unless someone jumps him at the combine, things will stay this way.
I heard they were giving back Sanchize and using last year's first round pick to get him. But just to make my 2nd drop in wingspan point of the day... The length listed on websites is just the length of an arm, the overall wingspan of a player is heavily dependent on the width of their body/shoulders. It's the reason why Perrish's arms are technically shorter, but look one hell of a lot longer than Toast's. Maybe that's because he's usually only stretching them out when he's chasing his receivers down the field though...
Probably because I don't spend hours upon hours in front of my computer screen. Anyway, I'll admit that I was more than likely wrong about Wilson. He does seem more fluid than Robinson and Cox. I just don't ever watch mid-size conference play (usually just SEC and Big 12). Overall, I don't think this CB class is very good but Wilson does have the potential to be a good corner in the NFL. Robinson will more than likely be a nickel and Cox could end up being a #2 down the road but I actually think he'd be a great Safety. However, when it comes to Shipley, I really think he will be a great slot WR if he's given an adequate QB. I'm not saying he'll put up Welker type numbers but if he were on NE and Welker wasn't, he would play a very similar role and be very productive. As for Barnes, I don't think he'll have a productive career. He doesn't have good size or speed and played against very soft pass defenses this year in the MAC (except against BSU where he got shut down). Sorry, but a 6'0" receiver with a 4.60 40time from the MAC just doesn't excite me much.
What do you think of Jerricho Cotchery? He was an amazingly productive receiver at NC State, that's 6'0 and ran close to the 4.6s. Freddie Barnes is one of the better route runners in college football. You draft this kid, line him up in the slot, and he'll get open for his quarterback. At 6'0 212, Barnes is bigger than Cotchery, so he definitely has enough size to play in this league.
Sorry...I'm just really anti-MAC. Cotchery broke Torry Holt's records at NC State. Whose records did Barnes break?
I've watched Shipley, but I haven't watched Barnes so this isn't a comparison. Shipley can catch and get open in space, and has good speed. He's played against really good competition at UT, and I like that he's had to play in big games. He's pretty seasoned for as young as he is. He grew up in a football household and it shows. I'm not a draft guru though.
Cox as a safety? He's probably the most NFL ready corner not named Joe Haden. He's big enough to play safety, and he likes to hit, but he's also very fast with some serious ball skills. His only issue is keeping out of trouble. Just ask AJ Green what position Cox should play.
I think Shipley will be a good pro, but I'd rather see the Jets take a guy like Jacoby Ford in the 5th (or 4th if they trade back in). Ford has a terrific upside and could help out in the return game and on screens. At 5'9 185 lbs, he is small but maybe a perfect fit into that "slot" receiver.
This is why I want the Jets to pick up a 3rd or 4th round pick. Here's a rookie that I can actually see having an impact. Not a major, marquis season but noticeable production.
Let's clarify this... it's not that if you are short (and possibly white although FOrd isn't) you are automatically a good slot WR. To be a good slot Wr you need to run excellent routes, be physical (not afraid to go through the middle) and have reliable hands. Ford is a small but he has isn't all that good in running routes and has average hands... he is not a slot WR, he is a deep threat ALA clowney (better than him prob).
Let's clarify this...Just because a receiver is fast, doesn't make him just a deep threat. Being a UM fan, I watch tons of ACC action. Ford ran mostly slip screens and over the middle routes. He only averaged 13 ypc his final 2 years. Most of his TDs over 50 yards were catch and runs. I think he compares more to Chansi than Clowney. BTW, when was the last time you saw a 6'3" slot receiver? Yes, they need to be precise in route running, but they also need to get open in space; something compact guys can do much better.
No...let's clarify THIS: Jacoby Ford is a track star wearing football pads, not a football player that runs track...and yes, there is a difference. Ford rarely runs short and intermediate routes over the middle. Swinney did make sure to get the ball in his hands through screens and reverses, but he's most definitely not the receiver you're making him out to be. He's a streaky player at receiver, that often has problems with drops...and like others have said, he's a very inconsistent route runner right now. Saying that he's not a deep threat is flat out wrong. Ford is incredibly dangerous deep. The kid's most definitely the fastest player in this draft, and I'm not sure if anyone will come close. Ford's a less developed version of Santana Moss. His immediate value is as a return specialist.
