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  1. rhodesfan16

    rhodesfan16 New Member

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    I disagree, because if I'm looking in the 6th and I see Williams who was unproductive but may have some "upside" or I see Trindon Holiday who is the fastest guy in college football and can play a little running back, I think I would be more inclined to take Holiday
     
  2. Mr Electric

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    There will be a ton of late round backs like Lonyae Miller, Joique Bll, Keith Toston, Darius Marshall, Andre Dixon, Stafon Johhson, Shawnbrey McNeal that actually produced in college.
     
  3. Mr Electric

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    I completely agree with this. At least if Holliday doesn't work out as a running back, he has great value as a return specialist.
     
  4. onefanjet

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    George Selve USF.........
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    I never said they didn't, but Keiland Williams failed to develop at the college level, so why should things change against NFL competition?

    So? I'm not against drafting a running back in the late rounds. I was one of the first to people to bring it up. I just don't want to someone like Keiland Williams, and for good reasons.

    It's supposed to be easy at every level, and Keiland Williams couldn't prove that.

    Stop calling Keiland Williams talented - you're reminding me of The GM. He's not talented. He was SUPPOSED to be, but he never lived up to it.

    Why don't we just draft someone off of LSU's scout team? Those guys aren't featured either, and they contributed about just as much as Williams did over his career.
     
  6. Green Hurricane

    Green Hurricane Footsteps Falco

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    I believe Keiland Williams has talent, and can develop into a solid NFL back, but in my opinion it's always been more of a conditioning issue. I just don't think he's ever had the look of a carry the load back, which is part of the reason why he's been passed by for four seasons.

    That, and since Jimbo Fisher left LSU has been pretty bad at doing anything but a one back system. They just don't use more than their top guy, not exactly the best system for developing young players. As a freshman Williams got a 1/3 split and was effective, then in year two Hester had over 150 more carries than him. Junior year Scott had 130 more.
     
  7. Mr Electric

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    There's a reason why Miles chose to use Scott and Hester over him though. Williams was one of the top running back recruits in the nation, and just never developed into the player that they hoped.

    When I look at him, I just see a waste of talent.
     
  8. Green Hurricane

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    Hester and Scott were better backs, and guys that could handle being workhorse, 20 carry a game types. If you look at him only as a top recruit that didn't reach the hype, then yeah, it's hard to give him any credit as a prospect, but if you just consider him apart from that he's not that bad. Big (with some room to improve his conditioning in my mind), fairly fast, and versatile skills, he really just needs a lot of coaching up.

    On a side note, I'm pretty disappointed overall with the way LSU has been developing talent recently, and this is another by product of that. There are a lot of players on that team that should be better than they are, most on the offensive side of the ball.
     
  9. bucknasty

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    Chad Jones is a baller
     
  10. JetsLookingforDWare

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    +1

    To this whole post.

    I like Williams' upside in the pros. If he can run a 4.6 or so he'll get some looks on practice squads, and if he runs a 4.5 I think he gets drafted late. I haven't heard anything bad about his character, and maybe he's just a late bloomer as a non-HS player. Even college is a whole other level when you're just coming out of HS. It's not like he never showed anything on the field for LSU either...I thought he was pretty impressive when he was actually given the ball.

    That's why he was a 6th round pick. None of those RBs Electric listed really blow my mind so much more than Williams. Maybe Dixon, but I think Williams is faster.

    Chad Jones IS a baller, but he's somewhat raw. That's kind of the knock on LSU guys...their games aren't really polished and there's alot of work ethic knocks but their athleticism gives them top potential. Williams could just be an extreme end victim of them. Crazier shits' happened.
     
  11. JetsLookingforDWare

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    My dream draft:

    1: Greg Hardy DE/OLB Ole Miss - I think he's a Mike Vrabel/Calvin Pace clone.

    2: Vince Oghobaase DE/DT Duke

    5: Stephan Virgil CB VT - Underrated as hell.

    6: John Jerry OG Ole Miss

    7: David Gettis WR Baylor - Big WR. Seems like a big personality. Could make it work here.

    Really...just the first 3 picks would do. The other 2 are throwaway, but I like the two throwaways.
     
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  12. Green Hurricane

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    Good? Yes. Baller? Perhaps. But like DWare said he's not wear he could be right now. Right now I could envision Jones going anywhere from late 1 to late 2, and someone with his body and skill set should be going no later than pick 20. Some of that is due to baseball, sure, but he was always football-centric, only playing baseball when spring ball was done.
     
  13. JetsLookingforDWare

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    So I've given this alot of thought and I've decided I don't think we'll go WR in the first. Unless Dez Bryant or Damian Williams (maybe Benn) fall to us, there's really no need to reach for a #3 WR. That's just stupid. We're not going to become the late 90's/early 00's Rams or 2007 Pats next year by drafting Golden Tate...let Sanchez learn to hit Edwards and Cotchery consistently first.
     

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