I don't know. Manning did look impressive with his throws, but when I watched the clip, I could think of one name - Jenkins. If we had ONE DL that could absorb double team, that would have been a whole new story for us. You see, coupled with the fact that Jets LBs cannot shed blocks (Fuck you, Sutton. Burn in hell.) our lack of physical presence up front compromised our pass rush a lot. Manning wasn't pressured at all in the second half, once he figured out what to do with the coverages - that's also exactly what Rex Ryan preached as well; you must limit the time QB has with the ball, at all costs, and we couldn't do it. This is precisely why I want someone like Seymour (I know - with the Final Eight stuff, he's a foregone conclusion) up front for us. If we get two double-team absorbing linemen, the linebacking corp will look that much better. (Frankly, I think Cactus is a tad bit slow to be an effective LB...)
I also believe the Jets offense or rather Shotty's Shoddy playcalling was responsible for the loss. Sure the defense looked powerless to stop Manning in the 2nd half, but realistically, you had to figure we'd need 35 or so to have a chance of winning this game. I thought we could get it from a combination of offense, defense and STs (like last time). And we were in excellent shape. Losing Greene was big but there was still yards to be gained on Braylon's side of the field. Bottom line, rookie CB get's burned for 80 yards...he's crapping his pants...and giving Edwards a big cushion the rest of the game. BS should've been called comebacks on Edward side of the field (25 yards, then 20, then 15) and as they guy starts to creep up, you hit him again with another deep pass. Also, you'd have to figure that the safeties would also be cheating to Edwards side of the field, opening up the other side for a deep strike to Clowney or Keller or Cotch. Way too conservative...and it cost them a chance to win the game. Bottom line, when you're playing this team and this QB, you have to figure you're already 10 to 14 points in the whole at the opening kickoff. If you're ahead by 7 you're actually down by 7. At 14-6, the Jets could've put themselves in position to win if they could've gained another first down or two on their last offensive drive and run out the half after kicking the FG. When that didn't happen, they should've entered the 2nd half with thought that they were already down 2 scores and just gotten aggressive with the pass. Let the kid play and try to win it. They never gave Sanchez the chance to pull the upset and that's what tough to take.
I agree with you on this, at 14-6 and the fumble the Jets were in complete control and they got a little passive instead of trying to get 7 they played it safe and kicked a FG. They get a 1st down and run the clock a little and take it in 21-6 it's a much different game. Granted my guess is Manning would have figured it out but he would have had to forces things down 15 instead of 4.
TBH, I think Rex was behind the playcalling on offense in the 2nd half. He probably figured we could run the ball and get a couple of turnovers on D like against SD. It's part of both Rex and Sanchez being rookies...if Sanchez were older and wiser Rex would simply let the offense be...if Rex were older and wiser he'd let the offense be until what we were doing in the first half stopped working. I can't imagine the OC was the sole reason we ran the ball so much with an injured TJ as the only RB. I wouldn't want to think one person by them self is that stupid...
I think either going for it or punting both would have been better choices, and I'm not just saying that in hindsight.
I would like to give the Vikings D credit to that performance but I did not consider Brees possibly hurt and when you bring it up it makes sense. He did as I recall throw a few wobblers late when he usually puts some good zip on the ball. And even though they won, even the play calling gives credence to your idea, they just seemed to step the attack back some late, even running a crazy reverse instead of just trusting in Brees.
I don't think you're giving the Colts defense enough credit. Looked like they were dictating the game in the second half. Don't forget, we didn't score a point. You can say we stuck to the run, and maybe we did, but the overall game stats weren't that lopsided in Indy's favor. It's playoff football. You just can't let your opponent rip off 24 unanswered points. Still makes me a little sick to my stomach.
Manning figured out that Strickland tore his groin and Lowery, Coleman and Sheppard, and Ihedigbo suck. True Genius indeed. Did he test Revis? Did he go to his favorite targets? There 3rd and 4th recievers were better than our 3rd and 4th defensive backs. I think he is the best QB I have ever seen but to say that he figured out the Rex Ryan defense and not also mention the Jets defensive personnel issues is silly. Can you tell me what coach can design a scheme to cover one on one with Lowery, Coleman and Sheppard, and Ihedigbo against the best passer the NFL has ever seen. (Jets use alot of man coverage because the only way they generate any kind of pass rush is by blitzing.) As soon as Strickland went down the Colts went 3 WR and were mixing in alot of no huddle with our defensive signal caller (B. Scott) out with a severe ankle sprain. How many of you would have thought we had a chance to win this game if I told you that Bart Scott, Donald Strickland, and Shon Greene would not play the majority of the game due to injury?
Every ball Brees threw in OT appeared to cause the WR's to have issues catching it. I know Henderson and Colston dropped balls and one that was deflected nearly picked off. Even the one that Henderon caught for the 1st would have easily have been a 1st had he not had trouble catching it. I don't know if it was nerves, slippery footballs or some injury issue but something was up with the way Brees was delivering the ball.
Well, for sure the injuries hurt us defensively. But even with that, if we had scored as many points in the 2nd half as we did in the 2nd quarter, we would have won the game.
The Colts defense shines when they're in the lead, and it was pretty damn easy to shine with Greene gone.
Well, they had the perfect target in a 31 year old back coming off a long season. We'd have had a shot with Greene in the offense in the second half. It would have come down to a last score type game - which I think would have been in Indy's favor but we'd have had a shot. It just is what it is.
I'm surprised so many posters are playing the blame game here. From Schotty to Sutton to Rex, then even getting on Jones. Please, just stop it. The Jets lost to the best QB of his era, Peyton Manning. Yes, losing Strickland hurt, because Leonrad had to stop blitzing after that, and because Rhodes can't cover a dime with a blanket. Maybe if Rhodes jacked up Garcon and Collie a few times, that would have helped too. But we know that isn't "his game", he told us so. Jones got us to the playoffs, but he was worn down. I think it was about week 15 that Schottenheimer said Jones had "tired legs". I don't recall the details, but I remember reading that. Sheppard was benched because he just isn't very good anymore. Remember too that both Harris and Scott were playing on bad ankles. But it's Sutton's fault now? Manning was other worldly in that second half. He was throwing into coverage and still putting the ball in the perfect spot. Let's not forget also that Garcon is one hell of a WR. Clark is as reliable as any TE I've ever seen. We lost to a very good team and to a QB that was absolutely playing the best I've ever seen him play, and that's saying something. We went into that game basically with one and a half running backs. Jones was worn down and had a bad knee. We just did not have enough depth to sustain ground and pound. We don't have enough depth in the D backfield, or at ILB. It was Rex's first year. We need to get that bye next year, and be fresh for the playoffs. Like the Colts were. I'm not about to complain now, it was a fun ride, and we went further than most of us had hoped for.
What was said? I didn't see it. My favorite NFL Films moment from that game was Rex, when the TD bomb to Edwards was in the air---"Catch the fucking ball!" :rofl:
No the absolute reason the Jets lost was they couldn't get anything rolling on offense in the second half at all. To miss that point is absurd given they scored 17 points in the first half and none in the second. The single biggest factor in not being able to get anything going in the second half was that after Greene left the game they rushed for 27 yards on 9 carries. Given that we know the run blocking was excellent and that Shonn Greene was a second half monster in two straight games before this, including one in which the Jets played from slightly down for most of the half like they did against the Colts, it's apparent that the weakest link and the one that shut down the Jets offense was Thomas Jones. That's just what it is.
According to Rex, he said it was because the defense couldn't get the ball back. Just sayin. Jones got us to the playoffs. He was worn down. So blame him? The guy had a bad knee and he was shot. Might as well blame Greene for getting hurt too then. Makes about as much sense.
Nothing. Just the look on the two faces...Sanchez looked like if he had a tail it was between his legs. Rex is funny. Edwards should catch the fuckin ball.
Again, I think at the end of the day, you have to try to outscore Peyton Manning. Who really thought our D would hold Manning to 14 or 17 points? Losing Greene probably hurt the effectiveness of the PAP, but we still needed to just go for it. I'd rather give it everything we had and have an epic failure than leave with a respectable loss and some bullets in my gun.
