the saints hit farve all day long, and he is much cooler and tougher than pretty boy peyton. i falsely assumed that rex would hit manning all day, regardless of roughing the passer penalties, or getting burnt once or twice. after the 1st quarter, it seemed that manning had much more time to throw. why didnt we play like the saints played farve? why didnt we play like bobby bowden's great florida state defenses of the mid to late 1990's? i thought that rex would be "no-holds barred" in going after manning, considering that to be sucessful against all-time great qb's you gotta make them as uncomfortable as a cat on a hot tin roof, all the while beating them into submission! it appeared to me as the coaching staff believed that our 2,3,and 4 corners could cover better than they did, and crunching manning was not an option! maybe next year our defense can learn to put pressure on qb's like the defenses of rex's dad. if not we better be drafting more corners, because the 2,3,and 4 that we have sucked yesterday! cant wait for the free-agency period and the draft in april. go jets!
We couldn't get to him, his release everything was just tooooo fast, he was honestly playing like it was fast-forwarded or something, gets the ball lets it go in less then like a second, and if that doesn't happen he avoids the defenders, that was prob the best game i've ever seen him play
they were hitting him a lot in the first half but he and the oline simply figured the jets blitz out. im not sure if we started dropping more guys into coverage?
Yeah- We go to him early on, then Manning became Manning. He started to recognize the schemes and calling audibles on every play. He gets rid of the ball so freakin quick, even on long passes he just lofts it up so he has no need to hold onto it.
I don't know about pretty boy, but Peyton has the 2nd longest starting streak of all QB's in the NFL, I wouldn't question fragility. Next, Rex did blitz early and often, the O-line just picked up after the 1st quarter. Manning audibled to quick slants and once Rex went to 5 DB's we gashed your team with the run. The deep ball opened up because your team blitzed too much. Almost every blitz led to a play of 10+ yards.
Hopefully the Saints will get to golden boy and make him eat grass. I can't stand him and his 5,000 commercials on tv. GO SAINTS!!!
All these guys are pretty tough compared to the average Joe... I think that has to be a part of their mental make up to play this game at all, so I won't call Manning fragile. But he has led a blessed career in that he doesn't take the pounding a lot of other guys have had to take at his position. He's generally had a pretty good run of line protection with some odd games here and there where he's taking a bit of a beating.
we didn't pound him because his offensive line pass protects too well, and he gets rid of tha ball in about a second and a half
There were a number of things that prevented us from blitzing more. First of all, Manning did a great job of figuring out the scheme. Even when we blitzed, we couldn't get to him. The other reason why we stopped blitzing or calculated our blitzes was because we had our #3 and #4 corners out there getting burnt so we had to drop back into soft coverages. Damned if we did, damned if we didn't.
We hit him early, and then he figured out the D. Our zone coverage had several soft spots and Manning explored them and started taking advantage of the blitz. Thats when we when back into cover 2s, man to mans, and fewer blitz overall.
When the Steelers beat the Colts in the playoffs a couple years ago (when, IMO, the Colts had their best team in the Manning era), they did so with blitzes and stunts of all kinds to pressure him into making quick (and, often, bad) decisions. They had taken a page from the way the Pats had always played us. If you get enough penetration and make Peyton unload quickly, it would disrupt the flow of the Colts' offense. OC Tom Moore and Manning have worked to negate that by having a couple safety valves for Manning to counteract them. Keep in mind that Manning comes to the line of scrimmage with 3 plays to choose from. He chooses the play based on his read of the defensive formation. The Jets showed early that they were going to blitz a lot, and the Colts adjusted their play-calling to punish them for it. And that goes to show that we learned from those stinging losses in years past.
That's precisely what he's after, to be perfectly blunt. A lot of people think: (a) the best defense against Manning & the Colts is to get back in his face as much as possible, and (b) that the Colts offense thrives on the long-ball. There's reason to think both things. At times past, both were very much true. The Pats smoked us in the playoffs a couple times by overwhelming us with backfield penetration. The Steelers did it the year they won the SB, too. And Manning made a reputation for himself with deep passes to Marvin Harrison. Well, it takes time for those plays to develop. Thankfully, adjustments were made to counter that game plan. If a team shows early that they want to get into the backfield, Moore's sets will change and Manning will favor the quick timing routes if the defensive formation continues to suggest it. If it doesn't, then he'll opt for play-action or something else to exploit their adjustments. I'm telling you: this "quarterback chooses from 3 plays on every snap" thing can work wonders if you can pull it off. Essentially, every single play we run is an audible based on one guy's read of what the defense is going to do. That's why PM spends so much time studying still photographs on the sidelines.
what the Saints were able to do against the Vikings has zero with what the Jets are able to do against the Colts. there just is no correlation. not to mention the solution is not just to blitz or just go no holds barred. you do know that what you are able to do is dependent on the other teams ability to counter it, don't you? it isn't just a matter of having a plan and executing it. what a horribly stupid fucking post.
It's more the latter than the former, though. But he's only trying to unload the ball quickly if that's what the defense is going to give him. You'll notice that he wasn't doing that in the first couple drives yesterday. You'll also noticed that he found the turf a couple times as a result. As much as some people think that Manning makes his living with 20+ yd bombs, the truth is that most of his success comes from timing routes. And the goal there is to have the play develop quickly, take the 4-5 yard gain plus whatever can come from YAC, and force the defense to adjust accordingly. If they don't adjust, he'll gladly move the ball that way all game. He and his receivers practice all of those routes religiously. And they're nearly impossible to defend if they're executed well (and they are). If they do adjust, then it opens up new avenues where he can have a few seconds in the pocket to find some longer targets.
Per Howard Mudd, the first sack was a missed assignment and the second, the lineman got ran over. Per Manning, the biggest change was from the two TE set to three wide. It also looked like he went to s lot of three step drops early as well, to mitigate the rush.
gotta give credit to P.M. All those passes that their receivers dropped were right on target. Slant route killed the Jets Defense!
