Please, tell me how? It's not just about stats - I know Matthews had a few more sacks, and two more TFLs. Geathers was way more important against the run.
I constantly say that because it's obvious that you don't watch many USC games. I'm not trying to say that you're stupid because you don't, you're just less informed - it's not that big of a deal. If you read some of the shit on this board, it's a damn good argument.
... More TFL, sacks, passes broken up, and forced fumbles. Did you completely miss Matthews during those all out, superfocused viewings of USC football?
I'll go ahead and re-post my edit that you missed... It's not just about stats - I know Matthews had a few more sacks, and two more TFLs. Geathers was way more important against the run. Jeez - I wonder who's going to have more sacks? A rush end or a run-stuffer that spent most of the season lined up inside at tackle? It was Geathers' job to keep linemen off of Eric Norwood and the other backers.
Yes, I realize that. That's usually the job of big men. Very good ones usually put up good numbers in college. Geathers right now is interesting at best, and has an offseason to get out of the late Day 2/3(?) pick he is now. Even then, that goes around my own point. It is a point I was hoping was somewhat obvious, and I hold out hope that someone got it and maybe even chuckled. You said their were 3 impact players on USC's D after proclaiming yourself an expert in the matter. You then didn't include Matthews in that 3, despite him being one of the 3 most impactful defenders. Then you throw another one, Whitlock, out too.
CC Whitlock only started a couple games. He was in Steve Spurrier's dog house for most of the season. Spurrier finally realized that Akeem Auguste is a giant load of a suck and decided to start Whitlock. Only a couple of starts = not much of an impact. Much like Matthews, Whitlock's potential is a lot greater than the impact he made in 2009. Cliff Matthews wasn't as important to the defense. I'll give him credit as a pretty good and much improving pass rusher, but he's medicore-at-best in run support. Matthews was definitely the weakest starting defensive lineman when it came to stopping the run. Carolina a ton of talent at defensive end, but none of them are 6'8 285. There's going to be a true freshman on the field next year named Kelcy Quarles, hopefully he'll fill that void. I understand what you're trying to say, but it's not true. You can't convince me of that. I eat, sleep, and breathe USC football during the season. A lot of people are upset that Geathers is leaving too soon. Also, I never said anything about Clifton Geathers getting drafted high. I know that he'll be a mid-to-late round pick, but mainly because he wasn't ready to come out.
You floor me. Seriously...Wow. Geathers is not one of USC's 3 best D players. Besides Matthews, Culliver and Ajiboye would get consideration over him. All this work to not admit you might have just fucked up? Grow up...You're not making any further point of interest on Geathers , and this Matthews thing is only hurting my brain.
Ladi Ajiboye only started four or five games. He started off the season serving a suspension and he was used as a rotational tackle for most of the year. Yea, he had some good games here and there, but he's got a horrible motor and he's an idiot. In fact, if Nathan Pepper and Travian Robertson didn't get hurt, I doubt Ladi would've seen much PT. He was decent as a freshman, but it almost seems like he's getting worse. Chris Culliver has been a disappointment so far. You probably looked up his recruiting profile and saw that he was a 5-star. The kid's got a TON of potential, but he needs to learn how to play the position. Darian Stewart was the more important safety, but he had a down year in 2009. I really wish Emanuel Cook didn't leave early... You really can't discuss something without attacking someone - it's hilarious. All of your attempts at trying to make me look wrong are so far off. It's funny that YOU are telling me to grow up.
No and no. Again, this is why I call you creepy. Didn't know Culliver was a 5 star recruit, and what you said about Ajiboye could be said about Geathers (no motor, possibly an idiot). Oh, and once again - Clifton Geathers is not a top 3 player on the USC D. At this point I've got Norwood, Matthews, Gilmore, Culliver, and Ajiboye (when not injured) as better pro prospects and impact players on the USC D.
Cilfton Geathers doesn't have durability issues and he's done fine in the classroom, so you're wrong...again. Geathers was more important to USC's run defense than anyone except Eric Norwood. Ajiboye wasn't injured, he was suspended because of numerous off the field issues. Chris Culliver was a rotational safety! Davonte Holloman actually got more snaps towards the end of the season. There's no argument here anymore. I'm done - it's blatantly obvious that it's impossible to get any kind of point across with you.
Yep...and still Geathers isn't a top 3 player on that D. Just the fact that you're trying so hard to play off this Matthews thing is hilarious...At least you've convinced yourself that I've been the idiot here. I can live with letting you think that since you might just flip that psycho switch again...
Nice job editing you post just so you could get a last second cheap shot in. I mentioned three players that I think meant the most to the defense as a whole. It's my opinion, something that I'm allowed to have. If I would've said Matthews instead of Gilmore, you would've been sure to mention someone else - you're a joke. Just the fact that you think I'm trying hard is hilarious.
Again...No. You assume too much. Another reason I think you're creepy/psycho. And it's not just that you didn't include Matthews, it's how you try to bullshit your way out of that. How you can just blow off the teams second best pass rusher who's second on the DL behind Norwood in pretty much everything is beyond me, but then to actually go around it as much as you possibly can to not admit your wrong...that takes something. Something wrong, but something. And no, Geathers still isn't a top 3 defender on USC.
Eric Norwood didn't even play defensive end in 2009...he was a linebacker. He'll line up there maybe 5 to 10 snaps a game. You don't know shit, so stop.
Fuck...Matthews played DE/LB though nowhere near as much LB as the more experienced Norwood. Stop splitting such retardedly tiny hairs to make yourself feel better...again, it's creepy....and it almost always goes away from the actual point...just so that you find some slimy little way to "win"...again, creepy. Geathers is still not a top 3 player on the USC D.
No, he didn't. Matthews began his career as a linebacker, but was converted into a defensive end - smart move by the coaching staff. Eric Norwood and Shaq Wilson were the starting linebackers on USC, and Darian Stewart played Spur, which is like a safety-linebacker combo. When Norwood lined up at end, Matthews was lined up on the other side...with his hand in the dirt. You're trying to make it seem like I'm saying Matthews isn't a good player, when clearly I'm not. I know that he's good, and I hope he'll become great. I see that you added this: It took you a little bit longer to think up another one of your cheap shots. The late edits are getting a little old man.
No, I'm trying to make it seem like you completely ignored USC's second most productive player when talking about their 3 best players on D. I'm trying to make it seem that way because you actually did do that...after proclaiming yourself the unquestioned USC expert here. Matthews will go higher than Geathers in next years draft, and for good reason. That good reason being that Geathers is not a top 3 USC player on D, and Matthews is.
I'm not sure anyone, including you, has any idea what we're talking about at this point. What I can tell you is that Clifton Geathers is not a top 3 player on South Carolina's D. Which is all I've been trying to say since your massive fail of an attempt to hype him up.
So yea...2 guys it sucks not have in this draft...Greg Romeus and Jerrell Powe. I'd peg those guys as our picks in every mock draft, even though I realize getting one of the two would be a coup.
