"Sorry?" I never disagreed with that. In fact that is the exact point I've been making on Packers boards on and off for six months, so we agree, at least superficially. Favre told Packers he wanted to be traded to a warm weather/dome team running a west coast offense, preferably with a coaching staff he knew and was comfortable with -- this is a fact acknowledged by both sides (Favre and Packers). When Packers ruled out Vikings as a candidate, Tampa and Jon Gruden stepped up, they fit the bill perfectly. Favre went to bed one night thinking he was a Buc, and woke up the next morning to learn from ESPN he was a Jet. If Thompson does not pull the carpet from under Favre in the middle of that night, I predict Favre would probably have retired after playing a year or two for the Bucs, and never been a Viking. He only weaseled out of the Jets and to the Vikings because of what he said all along -- that a team like the Jets (not the Jets in particular) was not where he wanted to end up. So though you are right, Favre only ends up as a Viking by going through NY first, you are wrong if you think it was Favre's machinations that brought that to pass. It was Ted Thompson's. If this were true, then why did Favre asked to be released BEFORE the draft (which was denied)? Since that deal was in place and all? In believing this you are calling Brett Favre, Jon Gruden, and most of the Tampa Bay coaching staff -- plus Ted Thompson I suppose -- out-n-out liars for all consistently claiming that both Tampa and Favre thought he was going there right up until the moment he was traded to Jets. That being true obviously makes your scenario "having an agreement in advance" impossible. Oh yeah and I think Tannenbaum would have to be lying too. For what gain they would all coordinate on this lie, I don't comprehend.
It was a joke gustoon. Relax. One of the threads that got merged in here that was an example of some of the sucky threads was the "change the name of the board" threads. Don't be so uptight. Or be uptight, your choice.
Read and comprehend the second part of my post that you quoted. The Jets weren't going to grant him his release until after they had a plan to replace him - either a FA or drafted QB - to save face in the predetermined scenario. If the Jets had out-and-out released Favre before the draft, it would have been obvious that this was part of the deal, and there would have been querstions flying all over the place about why they would trade for him and then outright release him less than a year later. That way Favre can be the fickle bad guy when he comes out of retirement and 'forces' them to release him, and if he does well in Minnesota, they don't look as bad because he was 'retired' when they drafted the rookie. When they drafted Sanchez, his contract would make bringing back Favre impossible with the salary cap, and they were 'forced' to release him. And I have no doubt that this part of the deal in particular was exactly what gave the Jets a trump card over the Bucs. Favre gets a bunch of jersey money in the biggest media market in the country, gets talked about ad nauseum because of the hoopla surrounding the trade (which of course fed his enormous ego) and gets what he wanted in the first place - a job in Minnesota with the best runningback in the league lined up behind him and one of the fiercest deenses in the league to keep giving him the ball back. It's really not hard to comprehend, you just don't want to.
bumped as a friendly reminder. If you find another of your incoherent threads in here for the 2nd week in a row, you win the Grand Prize of a week off for next weeks game against Buffalo.... This prize is non-transferable, non-refundable...
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Ugh...no. Not at all. It looked like a painful hit but if that ruins someone's career, then they probably shouldn't be playing in the NFL, NCAA, or High School to start with.
