I've heard from a former ravens scout (on twitter, lol) that Rex has a major hard-on for cover corners, and he feels that they are the biggest component of running his defense correctly. Also, its amazing that even with all of these holes on D that we have the #1 defense in the league!
Some exact quotes from http://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks (bio: 2003-2006 BAL Ravens Scout 2007-2008 CLE Browns Scout (Now the One and Only Twitter Scout) Rex Ryan was obsessed with CBs when I was with him, "If you have 2 good CB's, you need 3... If you have 3, you need 4" @jhammel If you have 2 dominant CBs, you can get creative with pressure packages... Ravens are less creative b/c their CBs need help
I agree with pretty much all your targets except Dunlap. Too risky IMO. I want Haden in the first and I'll pray that a pass-rusher like Hughes/Norwood/Kindle drops to us a little later. If one doesn't, we could go with Boo in the 2nd. Haden is by far my #1 target right now though. Our defense needs another good CB, Lowery won't get it done. Edit: I completely forgot about George Selvie somehow. I want Haden and Selvie.
Mr. E how do you see the top 15 shaking out as of now? potential guys for the top 15? In addition to the guys you listed Berry Mays Clausen likely 2 tackles the top Receiver be it Dez Bryant or someone else. the top Rb, Spiller or Matthews thats 12 guys there, just based on my guesses, and I'm not even good at this stuff.
I put in Dunlap just to mention the risk (reread my post on Dunlap).....he's not my 1st choice by any means. If Dunlap kicks it up a notch....he wil dominate. I'd rather go after a consistent player .....like Haden/Griffen/Norwood. Cody isn't consistent, but his size/quickness makes up for his lack of motor at times.
If we do pick in top 10(which would be horrible, but not impossible), what would be be able to get from trading down? The 10th pick would get us a late 1 rd and a very early 2nd, leaving us with 3 picks between picks no 30-45. Great value for money, great talent in this draft. We could plug a lot of holes. Is the value that much better at the top?
You can scratch Carlos Dunlap off the 1st round & 2nd round list. If we have a 3rd round pick & he's there, I'll take a flier on him. There is no doubting this kid's physical abilities,.........thats not the question. But after what we have gone through w/V. Gholston, there is NO WAY we can take a chance with a guy when its been questioned & even suggested/mentioned that he's lazy & takes plays off. Forget it. We need sure things from the interviews conducted during the combine. Forget about risk/reward. We need it to be clear w/the guys we draft ---- they LOVE football & HATE losing.
QB...Sanchez is a bust. In reality...I think we need a pass rusher on the D line. We havent been able to generate any pressure when only rushing 4 in our 4-3 packages. Easier said than done...big time pass rushers arent a dime a dozen. We cant be stuck in the 3-4 philosophy...Jenkins is the biggest part of it and he has trouble staying healthy,.
Julius Peppers' and Mario Williams' motors were questioned too. 6'6 290 pound defensive linemen that run below a 4.6 don't come around too often. I don't get why people expect players that are so big to be dominant the entire game - they need to play out a rotation, no matter who they are. Calling Carlos Dunlap anything but a 1st round prospect is hilarious.
That's exactly what they said about Vernon Gholston. Since then, its been hilarious for the folks in Foxboro, Miami, Buffalo. Mr. E, please read my post --- its got nothing to do w/his physical abilities. I dont remember anybody questioning Mario Williams work ethic before he was drafted.
Vernon Gholston was a 4-3 lineman that couldn't make the transition to 3-4 outside linebacker. Just because this team made a horrible pick in the past, doesn't mean you should write off other players...especially someone as talented as Carlos Dunlap. I think it's hilarious that people question Carlos Dunlap's work ethic when he's arguably the best run stopping defensive end in the country. Mario Williams took a ton of plays off at NC State. Julius Peppers was the same way at North Carolina. Like I said earlier, I don't see how people expect someone that weighs close to 300 pounds to go hard on every single play. Dunlap, Williams, and Peppers have good enough motors to do their damage in every game.
Now for those who don't think we need a WR, we the likelihood of Edwards resigning with the team are about 50/50 now. Damian Williams is the consensus top WR, but perhaps he will not be a top 10 pick (considering how loaded this class is) As the thread is entitled we are on pace to end up around 15, this is where Williams has been projected. Now why Williams and not Bryant, well this goes back to last years draft. It is in the franchises best interest to make Sanchez the man, and what better way than giving him one of his favorite targets in college. If not for the talent of Williams, it is entirely possible that Sanchez could even lobby for Williams.
Braylon Edwards wants to remain with the Jets. At least he said he did. If he doesn't re-sign, Tannenbaum should be let go because trading for him without re-signing him would be a horrible move.
WWS....Dunlap is worth only a 3rd rd pick??? That's insane. I may not be the biggest fan of Dunlap, but he's still a lock Rd 1 talent. I can understand your fear of another "Huge Bust" in rd 1....but trust me Dunlap is a much all-round better Football player than Gholston. The Jets won't have Dunlap playing "out of positon"...like the "Ghost". You can't be afraid to pull the trigger on a player in Rd 1. I can't recall calling Dunlap lazy...he's just a little too inconsistent. I have more tolerance for a player the size of MT Cody being inconsistent. Dunlap is good pass rusher and excellent run stopper when his game is on. Again, as I have stated...High Risk/Reward player. I never felt that way about Gholston.......I knew that was no way in hell VG would ever be successful converting to the 3-4 OLB. Lazy, laid back attitude and didn't have the skillset to play OLB. I was calling Gholston a bust a year before he was drafted.
Carlos Dunlap is this years Michael Johnson. Comparing him to Peppers and Williams is ridiculous, he's not nearly as productive as either of them were in college and Mario Williams had the best combine in the history of the nfl draft.
Eric Norwood has impressed me every time Ive seen him play. He would be an excellent second round pick, but he can easily get himself in the late first round
You don't need to question Dunlap's work ethic when the Florida DC readily admits that Carlos loafed through practices his first two years. Seems destined for the Raiders.
When I said he was 3rd round talent, I was referring only to our draft (that is if we even have a 3rd round pick in this draft). He's 1st round talent based on risk/reward, ---- but for someone else's team. I dont want my team to get near anybody whose effort/drive/determination has even been questioned in the least. And I would argue that MT Cody has been anything but inconsistent -- even on a single play. He performs his job on every snap I've seen of this guy --- get off the ball, take on 2 lineman and when in a 1 on 1 situation, shed the block & tackle the runner coming up the middle. Its just that his job isn't chasing the play/pursuit or even expected to rush the pass effectively.
What I would like to see is MT trade down and start stocking up on good players for a reasonable amount of money as opposed to moving up getting one great player for a lot of money, the Jets have some outstanding players on both sides of the ball, what they need are good role players, we have to many holes to fill, so with the above stated strategy we could go into the FA market and also fill some holes.
