Ok forum don't bitch and moan i know its early but lets just have some fun with this. Quarterbacks Charlie Batch, Kyle Boller, Mark Brunell, David Carr, Daunte Culpepper, A.J. Feeley, Rex Grossman, Josh McCown, Chad Pennington, Chris Redman, Brian St. Pierre. Yep, that's it. Kyle Orton would be a restricted free agent (as would Jason Campbell). Orton could get an extension from the Broncos or the high tender placed on him; Campbell will likely be available for a draft pick. There isn't a surefire elite No. 2 QB on that list, much less a starter. Running backs But, hey, your team is already set at QB, given this golden era we're in at that position. Okay, understood. But you?re in the market for a running back. ... Well, I?d suggest you draft one or make a trade. Chris Brown, Kevin Faulk, Ahman Green, Verron Haynes, Edgerrin James, Willie Parker, Adrian Peterson (not that AP), Aaron Stecker, Chester Taylor. Slim pickings. A few older third-down backs on the list and Larry Johnson and Tomlinson could well join this group come March, but even then, we're talking about nothing like a sure-fire franchise back. Paul Spinelli / Associated Press Terrell Owens had difficulty finding suitors on the free agent market last offseason. That was before a lackluster season in Buffalo. Wide receivers It's the same thing at wide receiver. Antonio Bryant is on the franchise tag and has been injury prone. I?m not sure the Bucs actually let him get to the market. Derrick Mason is still a starter at age 35, but the Ravens may well opt to keep him around before free agency begins. Terrell Owens had trouble getting more than one team to give him a big contract last offseason, and that was before his lost season in 2009. Other than that, it's guys who you could get on waivers. Arnaz Battle, Marty Booker, Antonio Bryant, Nate Burleson, Tim Carter, Chris Chambers, Antonio Chatman, Terrance Copper, Bobby Engram, Brian Finneran, Mike Furrey, Greg Lewis, Brandon Lloyd, Derrick Mason, Shaun McDonald, Sean Morey, Muhsin Muhammad, Kassim Osgood, Terrell Owens, Josh Reed, David Tyree, Bobby Wade, Kevin Walter, Kelley Washington, Ernest Wilford. Tight ends The tight ends and fullbacks are lacking stars as well (not that there are too many star fullbacks around to begin with). Plenty of serviceable players but no one who is going to put executives and fans in a lather. Anthony Becht, Dan Campbell, Alge Crumpler, Darnell Dinkins, Casey Fitzsimmons, Michael Gaines, Ben Hartsock, Will Heller, Reggie Kelly, David Martin, Randy McMichael, Billy Miller, Sean Ryan, L.J. Smith, Benjamin Watson, Kris Wilson, Todd Yoder. Fullbacks Justin Griffith, Jeremi Johnson, Dan Kreider, Brandon Manumaleuna, Tony Richardson, Terrelle Smith. Tackles Starting tackles get paid, but this bunch includes mostly guys who were already on the street looking for jobs last season and into this season, with Chad Clifton (suffering through an injury-plagued season) the lone real exception. Chad Clifton, Mike Gandy, Brandon Gorin, Cornell Green, Artis Hicks, Jon Jansen, Levi Jones, Scott Kooistra, Damion McIntosh, Tony Pashos, Ephraim Salaam, Barry Sims, Mark Tauscher, Langston Walker, Mike Williams. Guards What if interior linemen are more your thing? Okay, here's all the guards and centers. Again, hard to find someone you can count on to be a solid starter at this point. Kevin Mawae is the stud of the bunch, but he's 38. Eugene Amano, Jeremy Bridges, Damion Cook, Kynan Forney, Rex Hadnot, Ben Hamilton, Russ Hochstein, Montrae Holland, Stephen Neal, Chester Pitts, Tutan Reyes, Ryan Tucker, Keydrick Vincent, Bobbie Williams, Billy Yates. Centers Nick Leckey, Kevin Mawae, Seth McKinney, Dennis Norman, Wade Smith, John Wade. Wade Payne / Associated Press Tennessee' Kyle Vanden Bosch could be at the top of the free agent class of defensive ends in a potentially uncapped 2010. Defensive ends You have to go to the other side of the ball to find something resembling depth at a position. Defensive end has some intriguing names with Kyle Vanden Bosch and Julius Peppers among them (Peppers could get franchised again or extended, though). I would expect the Buccaneers to try to get Jimmy Wilkerson extended before March, and Adewale Ogunleye is still productive for the Bears. I also expect the perpetually heavy spending Raiders to throw a lot of money Richard Seymour's way to try to keep him off the market after trading a first-round pick for him. Jason Babin, Alfonso Boone, Tyler Brayton, Phillip Daniels, Ryan Denney, Nick Eason, Dwan Edwards, Jarvis Green, James Hall, Reggie Hayward, Vonnie Holliday, Jevon Kearse, Travis Kirschke, Leonard Little, Adewale Ogunleye, Julius Peppers, Cory Redding, Richard Seymour, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Jimmy Wilkerson, Renaldo Wynn. Defensive tackles I don?t know anyone in the league who doesn't expect the Patriots to franchise or extend Vince Wilfork, the cream of the defensive tackle crop. So we might as well take him off the list. The Steelers could opt to draft Casey Hampton's replacement rather than re-sign him, and he and Tank Johnson would have ample suitors as well. The strength of this free agent class is defensive linemen, but you're not going to see any Albert Haynesworth deals floating around. Justin Bannan, Kendrick Clancy, Marques Douglas, Jason Ferguson, Aubrayo Franklin, Casey Hampton, Tank Johnson, Jimmy Kennedy, Ryan Pickett, Fred Robbins, Bryan Robinson, Ian Scott, Kenny Smith, Hollis Thomas, Vince Wilfork, Jeff Zgonina. Linebackers Linebacker has a few stars, most notably Karlos Dansby. Again, I foresee the Cardinals getting a deal done with him and not just letting him walk. Aaron Kampman has not been a great fit as a 3-4 linebacker but could make an impact elsewhere. Tully Banta-Cain, Bertrand Berry, Gary Brackett, Keith Bulluck, Derrick Burgess, Khary Campbell, Brandon Chillar, Vinny Ciurciu, Danny Clark, Angelo Crowell, Karlos Dansby, Chris Draft, Larry Foote, Ryan Fowler, Scott Fujita, Tony Gilbert, Nick Greisen, Larry Izzo, Aaron Kampman, Paris Lenon, D.D. Lewis, Darrell McClover, Chike Okeafor, Junior Seau, Jason Taylor, Chaun Thompson, Pisa Tinoisamoa, Jeremiah Trotter, Jeff Ulbrich, Mike Vrabel, Tracy White, Matt Wilhelm, Sam Williams, Jamie Winborn. Cornerbacks The defensive backs are not nearly as strong. Leigh Bodden has been a good fit with the Patriots and he's another guy who may receive a new deal from his current club. Dunta Robinson tried to get a guarantee from the Texans not to franchise him again. Most of the rest have been barely hanging on, and age is particularly critical at these positions. Many have been cut recently already, and are nickel guys at best. Dre' Bly, Leigh Bodden, Ralph Brown, Demarcus Faggins, Travis Fisher, Nick Harper, Walt Harris, Anthony Henry, Roderick Hood, William James, Nate Jones, Ken Lucas, Hank Poteat, Keiwan Ratliff, Dunta Robinson, Allen Rossum, Benny Sapp, DeShea Townsend, Frank Walker, Dante Wesley, Brian Williams. Safeties Among the safeties, Ryan Clark is a heavy hitter who is having another strong year for the Steelers. He'd have options with several clubs. But with Tyrone Carter, the Steelers' quality third safety, also able to hit the market, I?d expect the Steelers to keep one of them around. Jermaine Phillips would be a good addition to some teams, but the full list is not glamorous. Will Allen, Mike Brown, Tyrone Carter, Ryan Clark, Nick Ferguson, Todd Johnson, Sean Jones, Kevin Kaesviharn, Ty Law, Marquand Manuel, Lawyer Milloy, Donnie Nickey, Jermaine Phillips, Pierson Prioleau, Mark Roman, Brian Russell, Bryan Scott, Darren Sharper, Matt Ware, Roy Williams. Kickers The list of kickers isn't bad, but no one is getting paid huge money from this group. John Carney, Jay Feely, Shayne Graham, Sebastian Janikowski, Olindo Mare, Neil Rackers, Jeff Reed, Matt Stover.
i dont see us going after much, maybe, maybe seymor or however he spells his name. that is if the raiders dont sign him long term which i feel they will. i think this offseason we resign our guys like washington and edwards and have a nice draft. maybe a trade but i dont see a big blockbuster deal. when you think of it were almost set at every spot starting wise except DT. what we need is a Dline and depth
I like DT-Aubrayo Franklin from the Niners....he's quite nimble for a big fella (he had an INT this past Thurs)...and would provide excellent depth on the Dline. I know this might not be a popular choice...but I also like WR-Kassim Osgood from the Chargers....lanky tall wideout...and is a Special Teams demon.
Both would be very nice pick-ups, especially Franklin. He's not huge (think he's around 317 lbs), but like you said, he's very agile and, in my opinion, would fit will in Rex's D. If I'm Tannenbaum, I'm throwing money at Seymour. There's no way in hell he will want to return to Oakland; after winning for so many years, he's now getting a taste of the abyss and will probably leave ASAP. Tanny always likes to try to fill holes before April, so that he can enter the draft with as much flexibility as possible. Getting Seymour would be a HUGE upgrade and fill a hole, and gets us that much closer to going BPA.
Edwards, Richardson and Feely should be resigned but other than that I'm not sure. Obviously Mangold, Brick and Leon will need new contracts this coming offseason, so I'm more concerned about that.
If the Dolphins actually don't resign him, I'd love to see the Jets pick up Jason Ferguson. He could give some quality snaps to keep Kris Jenkins from overworking himself, and anybody who's followed this team long enough knows how much Ferguson would love to end his career playing for the Jets. Other than that, DE is the only position I could really see the Jets spending money on this year. If Richard Seymour somehow became available, I'd hope they'd push like hell to get him in the fold. Otherwise, we've got plenty of guys already in green and white waiting to get paid.
We need to get younger. Do we really pay all that money to an aging Seymour to replace our only slightly more aged DEs? If Osgood or Franklin come cheap they're worth checking out, otherwise I'm all for drafting line depth and resigning our own stars.
If we signed Seymour I would still target the trenches in the Draft; we'd be upgrading and building depth simultaneously. Can't ask for much more than that. Osgood may be available. I think Franklin will be more difficult to sign because he's regarded as their DL's anchor.
I wouldn't mind the non-Adrian Peterson as our 3rd HB behind Greene and Washington next year, assuming Jones isn't here. He could definitely backup Greene if Leon is struggling early because of the injury.
Exactly. You get younger in the draft. Young talent is pretty hard to come by on the free agent market. And anyway, Seymour is 31 I believe, and is one of the great defensive talents of the decade. Some team is going to land him for five or six years and be really happy they did. Although, I suppose theres a pretty good shot the Raiders could tag him. That could get ugly.
It's still the Raiders. Everyone knows that Seymour didn't want to get traded to the Raiders. Him saying that the Raiders will make the playoffs is BS and he knows it. That just comes to prove how much he still cares about winning. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he wants to join us to get back at the Pats (plus, we did destroy the Raiders in their own crib)
the jets need big bodies on the OL and DL--everything else is gravy--give up on gholston, trade thomes jones while he still has some value, lose kellen clemens, and another year under their belt for ryan and sanchez and we'll be better--however you won't go anywhere losing to bills at home and fish twice.
