2010 3-4 Defensive Linemen

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  1. MBGreen

    MBGreen Banned

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    ^ I think Sheppard has a 40% chance of being on this team next season....
     
  2. Killeri9590

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    Were going to give him the Vilma treatment

    Also, at this point we really shouldn't give the Eagles any compensation. Not even a 6th rounder. Dude has hardly played
     
  3. MBGreen

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    if Sheppard continues on with his injury problems....I'm figuring we don't resign him at all....unless he comes on the "cheap"....but i don't see that happening without him exploring the FA market first.....
     
  4. Nesquik

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    He's one dimensional too, but Wilfork was a better prospect coming out. Im just saying if we draft another NT i would prefer for him to be able to do both effectively like Jenkins,Ngata and Rodgers its alot to ask but hey im still gonna ask.
     
  5. Mr Electric

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    Kris Jenkins is a one dimensional player as well. I just used Wilfork as an example because he was a first rounder.

    How can you say Wilfork is a better prospect at this point? Cody is bigger and stronger...we'll be able to tell what type of potential he has after the combine.
     
  6. DraftaFullBack

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    Technique? Conditioning? There is more to being a NT than being really really big.

    Cody just physically overpowers everybody in college which won't work in the NFL.

    He has tons of potential but he's not a sure thing. and Wilfork was more dominate in college, it felt like he was in the back field every play.
     
  7. The Grim Revis

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    Cody just saved Alabama's NC chances. Wow, that was crazy.

    Should've been flagged for taking off his helmet though.
     
  8. Nesquik

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    I live in Miami so i used to see Wilfork dominate when he was a hurricane, and Jenkins isnt one dimensional he's a very good pass rusher in the 4-3 he has 24 sacks in his NFL career compare that to other DTs and thats pretty high. Jenkins can play in 4-3 effectively at a pro bowl level, Cody not so much.

    yeah ditto
     
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  9. SettlerDawg

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    For those that saw the Bama game, how did Cody play up until the block? I caught a few plays and wasn't too impressed. I remember him not being able to push back linemen when he was one-on-one. The block at the end was impressive, but I'm still not sure about this guy.
     
  10. Mr Electric

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    1. Mount Cody blocked two field goals.

    2. Just because Cody isn't in on the tackle or in the backfield on every play doesn't mean he's not doing his job. Saban wants him to eat up space and draw double teams, and he does it better than anyone in the country.

    3. Key stat of the game: Tennessee averaged 2.2 yards per carry. This is a team that's been able to run on EVERYBODY.
     
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  11. Mr Electric

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    SEC > ACC

    Conditioning? Cody's lost close to 60 or 70 pounds since he's been at Bama. The guy wants to make himself better. If you watched any of his games this season, you'd notice that Cody plays a ton of snaps. I understand that a 350 plus lineman needs a break every now and then.

    Technique? Cody's job is to take up blockers so guys like Rolando McClain can make plays. His does a damn good job of it too.

    Mount Cody is strong as hell and 350 pounds...of course he's going to overpower a lot of college linemen.

    Vince Wilfork is 25 pounds lighter and 3 inches shorter. I know he's a much better pass rusher than Cody, but Wilfork was a 4-3 tackle at Miami. It makes sense for him to get after the quarterback.
     
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  12. SyracuseJet

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    My personal opinion, we have no idea what's going to happen if there isn't a cap next year. I think if there is no cap, you'll see a LOT of cuts. Gholston, DBrick, Ellis, Faneca, Thomas....so on... No penelties. I'm just saying...
     
  13. Mambo9

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    D'Brick?! are you kidding me :p?
     
  14. nyjetsrule

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    agreed dbrick and mangold are the only lineman who are immune to cuts at this point.
     
  15. WW85

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    Brick??? I guess some people's perception is 180 degrees....Wow!!!!


    I guess you also have an ideal replacement???
     
  16. Green Hurricane

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    I'm really not getting why there are people comparing Cody to Wilfork in this thread. Cody now vs what Wilfork was in college are COMPLETELY different. 100% different types of defensive tackles.

    Wilfork is big, but when he was at Miami he used his speed and quickness to make plays. When the Pats took him I wasn't even sure that he would do all that well in a 34 because his game was so much dependent on that quickness. Turns out, he's just a special player, and would have success anywhere.

    Cody is a nose in the mold of guys like Ted Washington, just huge men that ate space and held lines. When a team in a 34 has ends the caliber and size that the Patriots do (or the Ravens did under Ryan for that matter), then they can afford to have a guy that has abilities different than what the text books would say a nose needs to be. However, when a team has to build inside out, and when there's a player like Cody available, then there's really no debate.
     
  17. SyracuseJet

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    Add Calvin Pace.

    Why are you shocked?

    You want to pay an average LT $7m a season? Cut him and resign him. Pace too. Too much money for too little production. This is your chance to sign these guys to more accurate contracts with out penalty.
     
  18. Green Hurricane

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    Are you joking? Cut them and resign them to lower contracts? Do you honestly think that would work?
     
  19. SyracuseJet

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    Why wouldn't it? Do you think anothing team is going to dump a monster contract on an underachiever? I like Brick. He'd be a solid RT. But paying him ELITE LT money? You'd have to be drunk.

    ***On a side note. They'll still get their Bonus money. It just won't count against the cap. It's about what they're worth, not what they want.
     
  20. ace_o_spades

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    I just wouldn't take the risk with D'Brick, some team will throw elite money at him if he hits the market (average-above average offensive lineman always hit the jackpot in the free agency)
     

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