I tend to agree with this. He trys thinking too much when it comes to these situations. He's like a poker player facing an agressive player. He should trap him because he knows the agressive player will be making several plays on mediocre hands. Instead, he trys to go head to head with the agressor. When it works it looks good, but more often then not he ends up looking foolish.
I'm sick of having these experimental bookworms for OC's. Thinking Paul Hackett and now Schotty. Brian is just too tricky sometimes and the Jets trip over his playcalling. Like others here are saying, Brian was great in 2006 when our expectation were pretty low and he would get lucky and break a big one but that's just how it feels to today, that we've gotten lucky when a big play happens, not that it was masterminded. But, looking on the bright side, let's remember that our wide receiver core has been messed up the last two games with Cotch missing as well as Brad Smith. We are running a version of the West Coast offense which relies heavily on timing and route running. Even though Edwards has looked pretty good, he doesn't fit into the West Coast possession receiver we've been missing to regularly move the chains. That's what Cotch and Smith have been so good at. But we'll see how good we luck against the Raiders scary secondary... It could be bad... Long time reader, first time poster. I need to vent my frustration some way, right?
Wow, Jet fans are quick to pull the trigger on everything that moves. We loved Rex n his D in the first 3 games. Then all of a sudden, he is compared with Kotite after just 6 games in to the season. Sanchez is compared with Manning and even some busts. Shonn Greene is said to be a terrible pick by some posters due to lack of time etc... And then Schotty is always being thrown under the bus. He is an average OC to say the least IMO. He's not terrible if u ask me. Let me explain: 2006 - Chad Pennington: The team does a great job overall. Schotty's first year in the game as an OC and he shines along with the team. 2007 - Chad / KC: Second year in the team and he wanted to open up the offense. Fails due to the shortcomings in Chads physical abilities. KC was given the reigns, but was never ready for it. Injuries also take a toll 2008 - Favre: Now he has to change the offense yet again to serve the 'Almighty Favre'. Offense becomes the strong point of the same team plus the 39 yr old Favre. Once Favre is injured, the offense gets shut down. Schotty is not to be blamed for this IMO since you need your QB to be healthy in any style of football. 2009 -Sanchez: Rookie QB, no 2nd WR, 31 yr old RB, rookie headcoaching. Did u expect this offense to lighten it up? Point is, Schotty has dealt with 4 different QBs in 4 different seasons. He is not getting the consistency needed in the most important position in the NFL. He has to tailor his offense every yr according to the new QB (2007, he had to change the style during the season). He didn't have a great QB either for most of the time and when he did have a QB the played great, his offense was 1st in scoring pts (last yrs first 11 games) in the NFL. He is a decent OC, but not great. Definitely not a terrible one. You will find flaws in every OC and thats just how people feel. You can NEVER satisfy all the fans with a play on the field. For example, if its 4th and short, most fans will want us to do a QB sneak or rush down the middle. Some fans would want us to be aggressive and do a play action fake and catch the D off guard. If the sneak works, great call. If the play action works, Schotty is God. If neither works, we'd be yelling for his head and say the other play would have been ideal against this D. Thats just how the NFL is. You win and everybody loves you. You lose and you get toasted.
^Yes but they all limited Shotty every yr. Offense wasn't the greatest with Chad and it got worse with KC in. With Favre, it shined due to his physical abilities and style of play until he got injured. Now the rookie. Not much to blame the OC either. And Im not claiming Schotty is the best. He's decent at best.
Excellent post and the reason I don't want Shotty run out of town. Its too easy to look at stats , most here are too lazy or don't care to dig behind the numbers and see the truth. Any good OC has one thing usually - continuity at QB . Its very rare that teams who have had as many QB changes/injuries produce consistently on offense .Let's give Shotty some time to work and mold Sanchez before we throw in the towel on him.
The Jets lost 16-13 at Oakland last year while they were piling up 242 yards rushing. Favre wasn't hurt. The system just let a bad team beat them even while it was moving at will on the ground. You guys can debate whether or not Schotty is a good OC or not based on your impressions. I'm only looking at his results, and based purely on his results there are at least 20 OC's in football who are better than him.
I agree with the comment that his play designs are impressive, sometimes bordering on brilliant, but it's the timing of when he calls them that is off the wall sometimes. I also agree that he constantly tries to "outsmart" DC's with off-the-wall razzle-dazzle crap, and it NEVER works. But the biggest bitch I have about him is that he does not adjust to the flow of the game - ever. He seems to come in with a whole-game plan and refuses to deviate from it. He appears to almost ignore what is actually happening on the field in front of him. THAT I find very disturbing, and is the main reason I am a supporter of dumping him after this season. That said, Sanchez staring down receivers, throwing late and/or high, and not completing his progressions - even when he has tons of time, isn't about Shotty's offense..........but I will give you that his offense seems quite "pick prone" for some reason. It has been with every QB who has run it - bar none.
Darn, have we already missed the deadline to trade Schottenheimer for Norv Turner? On a serious note, Rex should just tell Schottenheimer to KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). The line isn't playing as well as last year, but the talent is there to run the ball effectively, play safe, and conservatively while keeping our defense from getting wore out. It's the same issue I had with his play calling last season. I haven't totally soured on him and I think he's had some good moments this year, the Miami game in particular. Last year he got a pass due to Mangini. This year, the verdict is still out, but he definitely needs to simplify it to protect his rookie QB (see Flacco, 2008). I'm not a fan of all the movement to confuse the defense, it seems just as effective at confusing our own players. Give Sanchez some easy confidence passes (of course, that means you need to catch them, Dustin), execute the basic plays, and win. As shaken as he was at the end of the last game, those play calls were awful. Protect your QB. On the other hand, Rex needs to chew out the whole team for penalties. They have been integral parts of our defeats, too.
I don't think anyone is tripping over themselves praising this guy.... He did OK with what he had in 06'.... 07' was a wipe out. 08' was the great Favre experiment along with injuries so, he's had valid excuses and now is a critical and valid time to really be putting a grade over his head and he's failing miserably IMO. I'm sure you were just another Jet fan with the rest of us that has pointed out all the reasons for optomism until now.
How is he failing miserably . Were the Hou/Ne/Ten games ok ?? Was it his fault Sanchez made two terrible mistakes against a very good NO team. I guess in the Miami game the offensive gameplan couldn't stop the wildcat . And finally the Bills game - yes Shotty's int calls certainly changed that game - not - Again execution and penalties were the story. We've been through 6 games and the only game that can be in question from the OC perspective is Buffalo and that's a popular but flawed perception. Why does everyone need a scapegoat and just admit the Jets made mistakes and didn't play good enough to win.
Unfortunately, he has to answer for it when the OFFENSE does not execute on a reguilar basis. And he has to answer for the recent debacle just as much as he was praised for making Sanchez look like the second coming of Montana the first 3 weeks. Our offense, it's never been consistent with him here, even when the Jets are winning.
I never thought he was a good OC. After 2006 I thought he had a 'promising' future ahead of him but the NFL disected that misdirection shit pretty easily. After that fell apart he's done fuckall to improve this offense. Just look at the offensive rankings while under Schittenheimer.... I wanted to promote Callahan to OC a long time ago, he is a great offensive mind and spearheaded some crazy Oakland offenses. No coincidence that the only phase of our offense clicking in the last two seasons has been the run game.
I agree with this, but this is also why I'm such a huge fan of Jay Cutler. The Bears just put their entire offense on that guy's shoulders. I can't believe how much pressure that guy handles every game. Forte and the Bears O-line are bums, and they employ kick returners as their WRs. I really don't understand what happened with Forte, but if you've watched him play he's truly bad. He fumbled on two straight plays last week and if he doesn't do that, the Bears very well might have won that game with a FG at the end. Or they could have won by converting a 4th and 1, instead of the OL blowing that with a false start. Now, Sanchez is not Jay Cutler. Sanchez is a rookie that doesn't have nearly the arm. Sanchez also has an idiot as an OC in these formative years, if you saw how Shanahan brought Cutler along, and the ridiculous unwavering support he put in the guy, that's how you bring a QB along. Someone find Shanahan and hire him right now, forget that you'd be installing an entirely new system after 6 weeks, do it anyway.
I've been thinking the same thing since last year. People were saying he was a HC candidate, I thought they were crazy. He seems to have the fire of a HC but he hasn't done anything out of the ordinary that would make him a good HC at this stage. He seems to like the empty backfield on 3rd and short which I don't like, but once in a while it may be good but not when the game is on the line.
