Between Jones and Leon they had I think 37 carries for 309 yards, which means the Jets DID run the ball. You can't run it on every down, like Footballgod214 just said, you have to keep the defense honest. You can't look at those numbers and complain we abandoned the run, we didn't. Penalties and execution cost us the game, not the play calling.
Shottenheimer has to take this loss. We could have run the entire second half with screens and short passes thrown in and played field position against a second string quarterback. Its just coaching 101
Laugh all you want, but a QB has read and progressions. I'm sure it's not in the playbook to stare at one receiver. You can blame the OC for too many pass plays called, but the ints belong to the QB.
I would if I was Rex. It was blatantly obvious that the running game was working and Schotty got away from it for no apparent reason. We have Jones, Washington, and Greene. If we just tried to exploit the run when we were up 13-3 we would have won the game. We may have had more punts, but the INT count would have been cut down to at least 2 instead of 5.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/09000d5d81397a41/Playbook-Bills-vs-Jets-recap Still so obvious... Mayock, Billick and crew for the life of em can't figure out what was up with the playcalling... "Keepin' em honest"....lol Mayock lists like 10 reasons to run the ball all day....
I am having a hard time believing so many fans here want to blame the play calling. WTF? You run the ball on every play and guess what? They put 11 in the box. I would suppose, since I can't recall the last time I saw a pro team throw the ball all the time. Maybe never. The team did not abandon the run.
Yeah...but run it till they stop it...that's how Miami slapped us around in the 4th quarter. It never got to the point where the Bills put 11 in the box. Schotty decided to get "cute" before it could happen.
Not saying their not qualified but who cares what a college draft "guru" or an unemployed "offensive genius" have to say. Its easy in the media to second guess calls - as theres no risk and no one to answer to. If Sanchez makes the throws like he did in the Texans game or the Pats game no one is talking about the "bad" gameplan.
Let's stop talking in generalities, and look at actual plays run by the Jets. Tell me how these plays indicate the Jets emphasized the pass too much and "abandoned the run" (my comments are in parentheses): At 10:33 left in the second quarter, tie game, Jets on Buffalo 21, third and four, they hand off to Leon who gets only 2. Failing to convert, they kick a FG. (Third and four is marginally a passing down. Running it led to a failure to convert on third, giving away a possible 4 points by settling on the FG.) 4 minutes left in the second quarter, on second and six from the Jet 19, they PASS the ball and Leon picks up 33 yards on a short pass from Sanchez. (Never pass with Sanchez on second down?!?) On the next play, Leon only picks up two on a handoff. 1:32 left in the first half, on second and ten the Jets hand off to Leon, who loses three yards, setting up a third and thirteen. (Point is obvious.) Last possession of the second quarter, on second and six, Sanchez fumbles, but the Jets recover. (that is the fault of playcalling?!?) On the next play, third and thirteen, they run it instead of passing, get only six and fail to convert, bringing Feely out for a 44 yd FGA into the wind, which misses, Feely?s streak is over, and the Jets fail to add any points. 6:36 in the third quarter, on first and ten the Jets pass the ball and pick up 8 yards. On second down they convert, bringing up another first and ten, but this time Sanchez is intercepted. (So I guess the first play call for a pass on first down was a good one, while the second one was not?!?) :35 left in the third quarter, on third and five the Jets pass and pick up ten yards for a first down. (They should have run it?) First play of the fourth, on second and 2 Jones loses a yard. Bringing up third and three, which is incomplete. On the Bills 35, the Jets choose to go for it on fourth, and Sanchez is intercepted. (Sure you can say they should have run it, but fourth and three is risky as a running down.) 8:27 left in the fourth, Jets now going for the lead in a tie game from deep in their end of the field, on second and seven from the Jet 6 Jones takes the handoff and picks up two. Bringing up third and five. (So, they should run it there, huh?) Jets pass on third and five and pick up ten and the first down. With 5:20 left, on second and 8 after Jones has picked up only two on first, the Jets attempt a pass and Sanchez is sacked for 16 yards, presenting a third and 24. (that sack was the OC?s fault?!?) In OT, on third and five from the Buff 24, Jones takes the handoff and only picks up two yards, failing to convert. (Yes, that was also the play Hartsock was called for holding, but the point is the Jets did not convert even with Hartsock holding. AND the holding call that took them out of FG range came on a RUNNING play, not a pass play. Not saying that?s the OC?s fault, either, but that loss of ten was certainly not because they were going to the pass.) At 9:25 in OT, on first and 14 the Jets run the ball and only pick up 2, putting them at second and 12 on their 6 yard line. Is that a run play? Instead they pass and pick up six, bringing up third and six. They pass and Keller misplays the ball. (OC?s fault?)
Well documented. And again--37 carries, 309 yards between Leon and Jones. Hard to say we didn't run the ball.
Thanks. The point is that those contending the playcalling was the reason the Jets lost have the burden of showing that. I have yet to see anyone here analyze the actual plays called and show with consistency how the Jets abandoned the run and went to the pass too often. The plays I listed I think do not support that contention. If one said merely that the specific plays Sanchez threw int's on should instead have been run plays, that does not make the case.
Nice work on the recap, I started doing a playcalling breakdown on the Buffalo game a few days ago and I'll probably post it next week no matter what happens against the Raiders because I've put a lot of work into it so far. I haven't even started the second quarter yet, but I can tell you that the second drive of the game stalled because Schotty outsmarted himself. He screwed up the first 'drive' by trying to get cute. Then in the second drive, he settled the offense down and got back to fundamental run and pass (along with a gift penalty from Westhoff to keep the drive alive), got into the red zone, and decided that he would attack Buffalo's EZ from the 10 yard line with a Seminole play and 2 obvious passing plays. Even though the run had been very effective in that drive. Schotty has a very frustrating habit of abandoning what is working for him. The playcalls on offense are definitely part of the problem. I haven't even gotten to the really bad playcalls yet, and this was one of the three drives that resulted in points.
Abyz, I am glad you brought that up, as it occurs to me I should have been more careful to make clear I was not suggesting and do not believe that Schott is above criticism. I was speaking to the specific point that is either explicitly or implicitly made by many here, an incorrect diagnosis, I believe, that the loss to Buff was a simple result of abandoning the run (or overemphasis on the pass, depending) throughout the game, particularly after the Jets took the lead in the second quarter. THAT criticism is not supported by the evidence, and specifically ignores the times that the pass succeeded in helping the Jets, or failed out of execution, as well as the cases where a run was called at critical moments and failed to get it done. But I hardly mean to say he is above criticism, and I often find myself unable to divine how his calls, whatever the mix of pass and run, are in pursuit of an efficient and effective overall game plan. Perhaps a better strategic vision here would have prevailed, but the main point is that the Jets lost because of too many penalties and poor execution.
