There won't be a challenge system but there might be an ump upstairs to review questionable plays on their own. Baseball teams don't have a booth full of team employees reveiwing every play of the game like football teams do..hence no challenge system.
Football teams began hiring people specifically for challenge reviews due to the introduction of the system. I'm pretty sure baseball teams would do the same.
Where was Rex's advisor on the out of bounds call this past weekend? Another useless job title..."Instant Replay Review Specialist" What are the penalties in baseball for utilizing replay? I.e. in football, if your challenge is overruled, you lose a timeout, you are only allowed 2 challenges...
That's a very good point. Football has a penalty for an unsuccessful challenge. It's hard to think what you could charge a baseball with, since there are no limits on time outs in baseball. Charging an out to the team could be an option, but a pretty serious one. Or maybe no penalty needs to be involved. Each team is given one challenge per game. Use it wisely. Really, how often does a play occur that warrants a challenge in baseball anyway?
Haha...you have no freaking idea how bad they can be. You should have gone to a game at the old Angels stadium. We used to get 3rd row seats 15 minutes before the game. When the Yankees were in town, we'd buy tickets a bit earlier. Otherwise, with 15 minutes to first pitch, you'd get stuck in the 7th row. It was absolutely pathetic. I hated the Angels so fucking much for that back in the day. Even if I hadn't been a Yankees fan, I'd have hated the Angels. Even though it didn't make sense as a Yankees fan at the time, I hated the Angels. When they upgraded/renovated Edison field and brought in all the amenities, people started showing up a bit. However, you could still go a week without seeing any Angels fan gear...until 2002. All of a sudden, everyone was an Angel fan, and they actually show up to games. They still can't tell you shit about their team. After the loss in Game 2, they interviewed fans rapidly exiting an Angels bar. The responses were all vapid, useless bullshit. "Well, what it comes down to is we didn't score enough runs. We're coming home, though, and that should mean we score more runs. I think in Games 3 and 4, we'll see enough runs being scored." And then, the smug look of someone who thinks he/she is being profound. Such garbage. I slowly faded from being a regular baseball watcher, but this series makes me wish I still cared as much as I used to.
Pretty damn often, judging by the 2009 playoffs. Unlimited challenges until you get your second challenge wrong. Then you're out of challenges.
In other news,Angels pitcher John lackey was spotted Wednesday morning in Walmart buying a pack of socks and bottle of ketchup.
The idea of challenging sucks in baseball. We would lose the element of arguing with the umpire, which is awesome.
I guess it's entertaining for the fans, but it ultimately doesn't do a thing except occasionally get the manager tossed. I will of course agree that it's entertaining to watch some managers throw fits (or sometimes put on an act for the benefit of their teams), but I'd rather that time to be used to do something that could contribute to the integrity of the game.
if it aint broke dont fix it but if they are gonna do it it should only be on home runs and foul/fair balls everything else theres and ump right there and you really start taking away form the game
...have you watched the playoffs this year? It's definitely broke, and definitely needs fixing. At the very least the MLB needs to create some kind of umpiring school and train these guys themselves. Then at the very least they'll be able to fix problems with the way umps call games early on in their careers--as far as I'm concerned, getting down the line so you can see the outfielder catch the ball and the runner leave the base at the same time should be as fundamental for an ump as running to first to cover the bag is for a pitcher.
Have you watched any of the playoff games? Just curious. Hell, you didn't even have to see it. Read the last few pages.
So anybody have any good recipes for crow? As for the challenge thing the calls last night were beyond bad... missing a tag is one thing but the Napoli play and the Swisher tag up were disgusting. I guess of course the Swisher thing doesn't happen if they make the right call at 2nd and the play at 3rd doesn't happen if Posada scores on the Cano hit like he should have but the same people that opposed the wild card will tell you things worked out in the end. Doesn't change that all 3 were awful calls.
Don't MLB umpires already go to school? I thought that was the case. Either way, instant replay should be in baseball. People cried it would ruin football, and if anything, it's helped far more than it has hurt. Wasn't there opposition to it in basketball as well? From what little I've seen, it's worked out so far. Sports evolve. This is the most current evolution in sports. There should be a challenge system, but no way should there be unlimited challenges. There are far too many "close" plays that would be challenged in every game (especially on plays at first) that would slow the game to more of a crawl. Considering the complaint against baseball is that it's too slow already, you really can't take that risk. 1 challenge per game seems enough to me. Save it for when you need it. If it's successful, you can have one additional challenge. Give the umps the ability to make a judgement call as well, as is done in the last two minutes in football. That should be more than enough.
Gotta win tonight. Finish the Angels now. Sure, we can go home and do it, but lets finish it now. LETS GO YANKEES! :beer:
Given that the Phillies are now already enjoying their long weekend, I'd really like to finish this tonight and get everyone rested up.
Umpires do go to school, but the schools are independent and are not owned or overseen by the MLB. I think that baseball may be running into the same problem that the NBA is: most of the refs are old men who have been doing this for decades. When you're 60 years old you're more likely to miss things than when you're 30, it's a fact of life.
its important that we capitalize tonight! There is going to be alot of good pitching from Lackey i expect...I also expect that if we hold a lead that the Angels batters could start to swing and be more aggresive again. They will be patient in the beginning and take AJ's first pitch
If baseball is too slow, I have a lot of better ideas for speeding up the game. The Yankees catchers visiting the mound four times an inning. Pettitte throwing over every other pitch. Batters calling time frequently to scratch themselves. Stalling the game for two minutes so a reliever can finish warming up. I didn't say unlimited. I said unlimited as long as you're getting them right. It sure as hell makes sense to me. You're saying the Angels should only have gotten to challenge the first blown call in that game, and they'd have to accept the rest? If you're right on the challenge, you should keep it. I think teams should get two. Football took a step in the right direction when they allowed a third challenge if the coach got his first two correct.
